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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	Wolfram Gloger <wmglo@dent.med.uni-muenchen.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/process: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan()
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 09:22:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151007072237.GE7837@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUxUOhuqQr5wsrea1L2sTi9-vRXco2AswkReaLwpa3cMg@mail.gmail.com>


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > * Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/05/2015 07:39 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >> >> But, I think I have the solution.
> >> >> We could have some blacklist - list of function names which we should be ignored.
> >> >> In kasan_report() we could resolve return address to function name and compare it with name in list.
> >> >> If name in list -> ignore report.
> >> >
> >> > I think annotating statements is cleaner than functions, even if it
> >> > is more code. Much better documentation
> >> >
> >>
> >> I agree with that, that's why I suggested to add READ_ONCE_NOCHECK():
> >>       READ_ONCE_NOCHECK()
> >>       {
> >>               kasan_disable_current();
> >>               READ_ONCE();
> >>               kasan_enable_current();
> >>       }
> >>
> >> Anywone objects?
> >
> > Sounds good to me! As long as it's hidden from plain .c files I'm a happy camper.
> >
> > This should probably also be faster for KASAN than triggering a warning and having
> > to parse a blacklist, right?
> >
> >> > If disabling with an attribute doesn't work, you could put it into a special
> >> > section with __attribute__((section ...)) and check the start/end symbol
> >> > before reporting. That's how kprobes solves similar issues. It also has the
> >> > advantage that it stops inlining.
> >>
> >> Yes, it might be better. Although, because of broken -fconserve-stack, this may
> >> not work in some cases - https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63533
> >> Function splitter may split original function into two parts and it always puts
> >> one split part in default .text section.
> >
> > We do a _ton_ of such section tricks in the kernel (all of exception handling is
> > based on that) - if that's broken by -fconserve-stack then the kernel is broken
> > much more widely.
> >
> > So unless KASAN wants to do something special here you can rely on sections just
> > fine.
> 
> Kprobes is moving away from a section approach for some reason (not
> sure why), but the kprobe approach should work, too.

Do you mean NOKPROBE_SYMBOL() vs __kprobes?

So one concern is with functions being in multiple blacklists, so yeah, the 
NOKPROBE_SYMBOL() approach might be more robust than __kprobes.

But note that NOKPROBE_SYMBOL() itself is still section based:

#define __NOKPROBE_SYMBOL(fname)                        \
static unsigned long __used                             \
        __attribute__((section("_kprobe_blacklist")))   \
        _kbl_addr_##fname = (unsigned long)fname;

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-05 10:28 [PATCH] x86/process: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-05 10:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-05 11:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-10-05 11:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-05 11:39   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-05 11:46     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-05 13:15       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-10-05 18:42         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-05 16:39       ` Andi Kleen
2015-10-05 16:59         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-05 18:58           ` Andi Kleen
2015-10-06  7:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-06  7:38             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-06 18:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-07  7:22               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-10-07  8:54               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-07  9:11                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-07 16:27                 ` Andi Kleen
2015-10-07 18:48                   ` Andrey Ryabinin

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