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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nohz: Revert "nohz: Set isolcpus when nohz_full is set"
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:20:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151012162001.GA32228@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151012153202.GB3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 08:32:02AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 05:21:23PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > This reverts commit 8cb9764fc88b41db11f251e8b2a0d006578b7eb4.
> > 
> > We assumed that nohz full users always want scheduler isolation on full
> > dynticks CPUs, therefore we included nohz full CPUs on cpu_isolated_map.
> > This means that tasks run by default on CPUs outside the nohz_full range
> > unless their affinity is explicity overwritten.
> > 
> > This suits pure isolation workloads but when the machine is needed to
> > run common workloads, the available sets of CPUs to run common tasks
> > becomes reduced.
> > 
> > We reach an extreme case when CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL is enabled as it
> > leaves only CPU 0 for non-isolation tasks, which makes people think that
> > their supercomputer regressed to 90's UP.
> > 
> > Some nohz full users appear to be interested in running normal workloads
> > either before or after an isolation workload. Nohz full isn't optimized
> > toward normal workloads but it's still better than UP performance.
> > 
> > We are reaching a limitation in kernel presets here. Lets revert this
> > cpu_isolated_map inclusion and let userspace do its own scheduler
> > isolation using cpusets or explicit affinity settings.
> > 
> > Reported-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > Reported-by: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>
> > Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
> > Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/sched/core.c | 3 ---
> >  1 file changed, 3 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > index 6159531..3c35b5f 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > @@ -7238,9 +7238,6 @@ void __init sched_init_smp(void)
> >  	alloc_cpumask_var(&non_isolated_cpus, GFP_KERNEL);
> >  	alloc_cpumask_var(&fallback_doms, GFP_KERNEL);
> > 
> > -	/* nohz_full won't take effect without isolating the cpus. */
> > -	tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to(cpu_isolated_map);
> > -
> 
> Why not make this controlled by a boot parameter?  That preserves
> the ease of use for those needing it, but avoids problems from people
> doing "make randconfig".

Well it is already. As you pass nohz_full=1-32, you can pass as well isolcpus=1-32

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-12 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-12 15:21 [PATCH] nohz: Revert "nohz: Set isolcpus when nohz_full is set" Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-12 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-12 16:20   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-10-12 16:53     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-12 16:55       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-12 17:42         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-12 17:45           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-12 17:50             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-12 17:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-12 17:55               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-12 18:22                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-12 18:27                   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-12 18:03           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-12 19:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-20  9:31 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker

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