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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Q: schedule() and implied barriers on arm64
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:24:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151019162423.GP3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151019152108.GC11226@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:21:08PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 09:06:05AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > In any case, its all moot now, since Paul no longer requires schedule() to imply 
> > > a full barrier.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > 
> > Nevertheless from a least-surprise POV it might be worth guaranteeing it, because 
> > I bet there's tons of code that assumes that schedule() is a heavy operation and 
> > it's such an easy mistake to make. Since we are so close to having that guarantee, 
> > we might as well codify it?
> 
> FWIW, the arm64 __switch_to() has a heavy barrier (DSB) but the reason
> for this was to cope with potentially interrupted cache or TLB
> maintenance (which require a DSB on the same CPU) and thread migration
> to another CPU.

Right, but there's a path through schedule() that does not pass through
__switch_to(); when we pick the current task as the most eligible task
and next == prev.

In that case there really only is the wmb, a spin lock, an atomic op and
a spin unlock (and a whole bunch of 'normal' code of course).

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-19 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-16 15:18 Q: schedule() and implied barriers on arm64 Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 16:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-16 16:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 16:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-16 16:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 16:55     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-16 17:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-16 19:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 19:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-19 15:18         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-16 19:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-19  7:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-19  9:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-19 15:21           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-19 16:24             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-10-20  8:37               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-27 16:19               ` Will Deacon
2015-10-27 18:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-28 10:39                   ` Will Deacon
2015-10-16 17:11   ` Catalin Marinas

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