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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, perf: Use INST_RETIRED.PREC_DIST for cycles:pp on Skylake
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:26:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151021152608.GG15102@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151021080947.GA2881@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

> Right, but suppose one user (root) would be sampling machine wide with
> PEBS whilst another user is using it just on his one task.

The root case is likely perf top which does not use PEBS.

> > > And you having killed the flag bits for PEBS events precludes people
> > > from using this manually, right?  I think we want to exempt .inv=1
> > > .cmask=16 from that general rule on general utility value.
> > 
> > I don't want to do this for every event. It has caused problems
> > in the past. There's also no reason to use the other events.
> 
> But it does allow users to play around with alternative encodings for
> cycles etc.. We've made use of this in the past when SNB turned out to
> have broken the event.

If they want to violate the SDM they can hack the kernel.
It's risky to do as you well know.

> > > We could maybe abuse .precise_ip = 3 for this?
> > 
> > I implemented this now, even though it's ugly.
> 
> Agreed, its not ideal.

So it turns out that UOPS_RETIRED.ALL+pebs only works by accident
on Skylake. It's not in the specification.

So on Skylake it has to be unconditional for any cycles:p
On earlier parts it can be only for three p to handle your 
unlikely scenario.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-21 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-19 22:58 [PATCH] x86, perf: Use INST_RETIRED.PREC_DIST for cycles:pp on Skylake Andi Kleen
2015-10-20 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-20 22:28   ` Andi Kleen
2015-10-21  8:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 15:26       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2015-10-21 16:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 16:55           ` Andi Kleen
2015-10-21 18:57             ` Peter Zijlstra

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