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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: perf related lockdep bug
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 07:34:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151104153454.GU29027@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151104142058.GX3604@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 03:20:58PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 05:48:38AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Ouch!!!  Thank you for the analysis, though I am very surprised that
> > my testing did not find this. 
> 
> Yeah, not sure how that ended up not triggering earlier.
> 
> I'm thinking of adding a might_wake(), much like we have might_fault()
> and add that to printk().

The idea being that might_wake() complains if a scheduler lock is held?
Sounds like a good idea to me.

> > But pulling all printk()s out from under
> > rnp->lock is going to re-introduce some stall-warning bugs.
> 
> figures :/
> 
> > So what other options do I have?
> 
> Kill printk() :-) Its unreliable garbage anyway ;-)

;-) ;-) ;-)

> > o	I could do raise_softirq(), then report the quiescent state in
> > 	the core RCU code, but I bet that raise_softirq()'s  wakeup gets
> > 	me into just as much trouble.
> 
> Yep..
> 
> > o	Ditto for workqueues, I suspect.
> 
> Yep..
> 
> > o	I cannot send an IPI because interrupts are disabled, and that
> > 	would be rather annoying from a real-time perspective in any
> > 	case.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> > So this hit the code in perf_lock_task_context() that disables preemption
> > across an RCU read-side critical section, which previously sufficed to
> > prevent this scenario.  What happened this time is as follows:
> > 
> > o	CPU 0 entered perf_lock_task_context(), disabled preemption,
> > 	and entered its RCU read-side critical section.  Of course,
> > 	the whole point of disabling preemption is to prevent the
> > 	matching rcu_read_unlock() from grabbing locks.
> > 
> > o	CPU 1 started an expedited grace period.  It checked CPU
> > 	state, saw that CPU 0 was running in the kernel, and therefore
> > 	IPIed it.
> > 
> > o	The IPI handler running on CPU 0 saw that there was an
> > 	RCU read-side critical section in effect, so it set the
> > 	->exp_need_qs flag.
> > 
> > o	When the matching rcu_read_unlock() executes, it notes that
> > 	->exp_need_qs is set, and therefore grabs the locks that it
> > 	shouldn't, hence lockdep's complaints about deadlock.
> > 
> > This problem is caused by the IPI handler interrupting the RCU read-side
> > critical section.  One way to prevent the IPI from doing this is to
> > disable interrupts across the RCU read-side critical section instead
> > of merely disabling preemption.  This is a reasonable approach given
> > that acquiring the scheduler locks is going to disable interrupts
> > in any case.
> > 
> > The (untested) patch below takes this approach.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> Yes, this should work, but now I worry I need to go audit all of perf
> and sched for this :/

Could lockdep be convinced to do the auditing for you?

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-04 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-04  5:17 perf related lockdep bug Dave Jones
2015-11-04 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-04 10:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-04 10:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-04 13:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04 14:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-04 15:34           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-11-04 15:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-04 15:51             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04 20:58         ` Andi Kleen
2015-11-05  0:55           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-05  1:59             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-05  2:46             ` Andi Kleen
2015-11-05 14:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-11 13:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-10  6:39         ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Disable IRQs across RCU RS CS that acquires scheduler lock tip-bot for Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04 14:01     ` perf related lockdep bug Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04 14:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-05  1:57         ` Paul E. McKenney

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