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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	mhocko@kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, will.deacon@arm.com,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire()
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 06:40:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151112144004.GU3972@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151112150058.GA30321@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 04:00:58PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 11/12, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:39:53PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > 	object_t *object;
> > > 	spinlock_t lock;
> > >
> > > 	void update(void)
> > > 	{
> > > 		object_t *o;
> > >
> > > 		spin_lock(&lock);
> > > 		o = READ_ONCE(object);
> > > 		if (o) {
> > > 			BUG_ON(o->dead);
> > > 			do_something(o);
> > > 		}
> > > 		spin_unlock(&lock);
> > > 	}
> > >
> > > 	void destroy(void) // can be called only once, can't race with itself
> > > 	{
> > > 		object_t *o;
> > >
> > > 		o = object;
> > > 		object = NULL;
> > >
> > > 		/*
> > > 		 * pairs with lock/ACQUIRE. The next update() must see
> > > 		 * object == NULL after spin_lock();
> > > 		 */
> > > 		smp_mb();
> > >
> > > 		spin_unlock_wait(&lock);
> > >
> > > 		/*
> > > 		 * pairs with unlock/RELEASE. The previous update() has
> > > 		 * already passed BUG_ON(o->dead).
> > > 		 *
> > > 		 * (Yes, yes, in this particular case it is not needed,
> > > 		 *  we can rely on the control dependency).
> > > 		 */
> > > 		smp_mb();
> > >
> > > 		o->dead = true;
> > > 	}
> > >
> > > I believe the code above is correct and it needs the barriers on both sides.
> > >
> >
> > Hmm.. probably incorrect.. because the ACQUIRE semantics of spin_lock()
> > only guarantees that the memory operations following spin_lock() can't
> > be reorder before the *LOAD* part of spin_lock() not the *STORE* part,
> > i.e. the case below can happen(assuming the spin_lock() is implemented
> > as ll/sc loop)
> >
> > 	spin_lock(&lock):
> > 	  r1 = *lock; // LL, r1 == 0
> > 	o = READ_ONCE(object); // could be reordered here.
> > 	  *lock = 1; // SC
> >
> > This could happen because of the ACQUIRE semantics of spin_lock(), and
> > the current implementation of spin_lock() on PPC allows this happen.
> >
> > (Cc PPC maintainers for their opinions on this one)
> 
> In this case the code above is obviously wrong. And I do not understand
> how we can rely on spin_unlock_wait() then.
> 
> And afaics do_exit() is buggy too then, see below.
> 
> > I think it's OK for it as an ACQUIRE(with a proper barrier) or even just
> > a control dependency to pair with spin_unlock(), for example, the
> > following snippet in do_exit() is OK, except the smp_mb() is redundant,
> > unless I'm missing something subtle:
> >
> > 	/*
> > 	 * The setting of TASK_RUNNING by try_to_wake_up() may be delayed
> > 	 * when the following two conditions become true.
> > 	 *   - There is race condition of mmap_sem (It is acquired by
> > 	 *     exit_mm()), and
> > 	 *   - SMI occurs before setting TASK_RUNINNG.
> > 	 *     (or hypervisor of virtual machine switches to other guest)
> > 	 *  As a result, we may become TASK_RUNNING after becoming TASK_DEAD
> > 	 *
> > 	 * To avoid it, we have to wait for releasing tsk->pi_lock which
> > 	 * is held by try_to_wake_up()
> > 	 */
> > 	smp_mb();
> > 	raw_spin_unlock_wait(&tsk->pi_lock);
> 
> Perhaps it is me who missed something. But I don't think we can remove
> this mb(). And at the same time it can't help on PPC if I understand
> your explanation above correctly.

I cannot resist suggesting that any lock that interacts with
spin_unlock_wait() must have all relevant acquisitions followed by
smp_mb__after_unlock_lock().

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-12 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-02 13:29 [PATCH 0/4] scheduler ordering bits Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: Better document the try_to_wake_up() barriers Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-04  0:09   ` Byungchul Park
2015-12-04  0:58   ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: Document Program-Order guarantees Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 20:27   ` Paul Turner
2015-11-02 20:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 22:09       ` Paul Turner
2015-11-02 22:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 10:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 14:08       ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-20 14:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 14:21           ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-20 19:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: Fix a race in try_to_wake_up() vs schedule() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 17:43     ` Will Deacon
2015-11-03  1:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-03  1:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 17:42   ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 18:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 18:37     ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 19:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 19:57         ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 20:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 21:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-03  1:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-03 19:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-04  3:57             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04  4:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-04 12:54                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-02 20:36     ` David Howells
2015-11-02 20:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 21:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-03 17:59   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-03 18:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-11  9:39     ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-11 10:34       ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-11 19:53         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 13:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-11 12:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-11 19:39         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-11 21:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-12  7:14           ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 10:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:00             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 14:40               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-11-12 14:49                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 15:02                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:53                     ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 14:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:01                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 15:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:20                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:25                         ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 15:18               ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 18:38                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 18:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 19:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 18:59                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:33                         ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 23:43                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 13:58                             ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 18:21             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-12 22:09               ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 15:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-16 16:04                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-16 16:24                   ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 16:44                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 16:46                       ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 17:15                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 21:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-17 11:51                       ` Will Deacon
2015-11-17 21:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 11:25                           ` Will Deacon
2015-11-19 18:01                             ` Will Deacon
2015-11-20 10:09                               ` Peter Zijlstra

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