From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
mhocko@kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, will.deacon@arm.com,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire()
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 06:40:04 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151112144004.GU3972@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151112150058.GA30321@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 04:00:58PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 11/12, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:39:53PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > object_t *object;
> > > spinlock_t lock;
> > >
> > > void update(void)
> > > {
> > > object_t *o;
> > >
> > > spin_lock(&lock);
> > > o = READ_ONCE(object);
> > > if (o) {
> > > BUG_ON(o->dead);
> > > do_something(o);
> > > }
> > > spin_unlock(&lock);
> > > }
> > >
> > > void destroy(void) // can be called only once, can't race with itself
> > > {
> > > object_t *o;
> > >
> > > o = object;
> > > object = NULL;
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * pairs with lock/ACQUIRE. The next update() must see
> > > * object == NULL after spin_lock();
> > > */
> > > smp_mb();
> > >
> > > spin_unlock_wait(&lock);
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * pairs with unlock/RELEASE. The previous update() has
> > > * already passed BUG_ON(o->dead).
> > > *
> > > * (Yes, yes, in this particular case it is not needed,
> > > * we can rely on the control dependency).
> > > */
> > > smp_mb();
> > >
> > > o->dead = true;
> > > }
> > >
> > > I believe the code above is correct and it needs the barriers on both sides.
> > >
> >
> > Hmm.. probably incorrect.. because the ACQUIRE semantics of spin_lock()
> > only guarantees that the memory operations following spin_lock() can't
> > be reorder before the *LOAD* part of spin_lock() not the *STORE* part,
> > i.e. the case below can happen(assuming the spin_lock() is implemented
> > as ll/sc loop)
> >
> > spin_lock(&lock):
> > r1 = *lock; // LL, r1 == 0
> > o = READ_ONCE(object); // could be reordered here.
> > *lock = 1; // SC
> >
> > This could happen because of the ACQUIRE semantics of spin_lock(), and
> > the current implementation of spin_lock() on PPC allows this happen.
> >
> > (Cc PPC maintainers for their opinions on this one)
>
> In this case the code above is obviously wrong. And I do not understand
> how we can rely on spin_unlock_wait() then.
>
> And afaics do_exit() is buggy too then, see below.
>
> > I think it's OK for it as an ACQUIRE(with a proper barrier) or even just
> > a control dependency to pair with spin_unlock(), for example, the
> > following snippet in do_exit() is OK, except the smp_mb() is redundant,
> > unless I'm missing something subtle:
> >
> > /*
> > * The setting of TASK_RUNNING by try_to_wake_up() may be delayed
> > * when the following two conditions become true.
> > * - There is race condition of mmap_sem (It is acquired by
> > * exit_mm()), and
> > * - SMI occurs before setting TASK_RUNINNG.
> > * (or hypervisor of virtual machine switches to other guest)
> > * As a result, we may become TASK_RUNNING after becoming TASK_DEAD
> > *
> > * To avoid it, we have to wait for releasing tsk->pi_lock which
> > * is held by try_to_wake_up()
> > */
> > smp_mb();
> > raw_spin_unlock_wait(&tsk->pi_lock);
>
> Perhaps it is me who missed something. But I don't think we can remove
> this mb(). And at the same time it can't help on PPC if I understand
> your explanation above correctly.
I cannot resist suggesting that any lock that interacts with
spin_unlock_wait() must have all relevant acquisitions followed by
smp_mb__after_unlock_lock().
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-12 14:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-02 13:29 [PATCH 0/4] scheduler ordering bits Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: Better document the try_to_wake_up() barriers Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-04 0:09 ` Byungchul Park
2015-12-04 0:58 ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: Document Program-Order guarantees Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 20:27 ` Paul Turner
2015-11-02 20:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 22:09 ` Paul Turner
2015-11-02 22:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 14:08 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-20 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 14:21 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-20 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: Fix a race in try_to_wake_up() vs schedule() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 17:43 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-03 1:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-03 1:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 17:42 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 18:37 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 19:57 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 20:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-03 1:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-03 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-04 3:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04 4:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-04 12:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-02 20:36 ` David Howells
2015-11-02 20:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 21:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-03 17:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-03 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-11 9:39 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-11 10:34 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-11 19:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 13:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-11 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-11 19:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-11 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-12 7:14 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-11-12 14:49 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 15:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:53 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:25 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 15:18 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 18:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 18:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 19:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:33 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 23:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 13:58 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-12 22:09 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 15:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-16 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-16 16:24 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 16:46 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-17 11:51 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-17 21:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 11:25 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-19 18:01 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-20 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
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