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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	yuyang.du@intel.com, pjt@google.com, efault@gmx.de,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] sched: optimize migration by forcing rmb() and updating to be called once
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:53:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151116125351.GT17308@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151110235147.GE4164@byungchulpark-X58A-UD3R>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:51:47AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 01:16:47PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > So the problem is that as soon as that ->cpu store comes through, the
> > other rq->lock can happen, even though we might still hold a rq->lock
> > thinking we're serialized.
> > 
> > Take for instance move_queued_tasks(), it does:
> > 
> > 	dequeue_task(rq, p, 0);
> > 	p->on_rq = TASK_ON_RQ_MIGRATING;
> > 	set_task_cpu(p, new_cpu) {
> > 	  __set_task_cpu();
> > 
> > ^^^ here holding rq->lock is insufficient and the below:
> > 
> > 	  p->sched_class->migrate_task_rq()
> 
> Thank you for explaning in detail, but this's why i asked you.

> Yes, rq->lock is insufficient in this place as you said, but
> should migrate_task_rq() be serialized by rq->lock? I might have
> agreed with you if the migrate_task_rq() should be serialized by
> rq->lock, but I think it's not the case. I think it would be of
> if task->pi_lock can work correcly within *if statement* in 
> set_task_cpu(). Wrong?

So currently, set_task_cpu() is serialized by:

 - p->pi_lock; on wakeup
 - rq->lock; otherwise

(see the #ifdef CONFIG_LOCKDEP comment in set_task_cpu())

This means that sched_class::migrate_task() cannot indeed rely on
rq->lock for full serialization, however it still means that
task_rq_lock() will fully serialize against the thing.

By changing this, it no longer will.

Even without that; I think such a change, if correct, is very fragile
and prone to creating problems later on, and sets bad precedent.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-16 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-23 16:16 [PATCH v4 0/3] sched: account fair load avg consistently byungchul.park
2015-10-23 16:16 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] sched/fair: make it possible to " byungchul.park
2015-12-04 11:54   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2015-10-23 16:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] sched/fair: split the remove_entity_load_avg() into two functions byungchul.park
2015-10-23 16:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] sched: optimize migration by forcing rmb() and updating to be called once byungchul.park
2015-11-09 13:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-10  1:09     ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-10 12:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-10 23:51         ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-11 10:15           ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-16 12:53           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-11-17  0:44             ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-17 11:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-17 23:37                 ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-17 23:55                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-18  0:02                     ` Byungchul Park

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