From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire()
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:56:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151116155658.GW17308@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxr4JX8XEF12qCOjbj1r92w8yuHZ0vbUm9jgvY167Svsw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:21:39AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Now, the point of spin_unlock_wait() (and "spin_is_locked()") should
> generally be that you have some external ordering guarantee that
> guarantees that the lock has been taken. For example, for the IPC
> semaphores, we do either one of:
>
> (a) get large lock, then - once you hold that lock - wait for each small lock
>
> or
>
> (b) get small lock, then - once you hold that lock - check that the
> largo lock is unlocked
>
> and that's the case we should really worry about. The other uses of
> spin_unlock_wait() should have similar "I have other reasons to know
> I've seen that the lock was taken, or will never be taken after this
> because XYZ".
I don't think this is true for the usage in do_exit(), we have no
knowledge on if pi_lock is taken or not. We just want to make sure that
_if_ it were taken, we wait until it is released.
But I'm not sure where task_work_run() sits, at first reading it appears
to also not be true -- there doesn't appear to be a reason we know a
lock to be held.
It does however appear true for the usage in completion_done(), where by
having tested x->done, we know a pi_lock _was_ held.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-16 15:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-02 13:29 [PATCH 0/4] scheduler ordering bits Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: Better document the try_to_wake_up() barriers Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-04 0:09 ` Byungchul Park
2015-12-04 0:58 ` Byungchul Park
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: Document Program-Order guarantees Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 20:27 ` Paul Turner
2015-11-02 20:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 22:09 ` Paul Turner
2015-11-02 22:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 14:08 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-20 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 14:21 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-20 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: Fix a race in try_to_wake_up() vs schedule() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 17:43 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-03 1:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-03 1:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 17:42 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 18:37 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 19:57 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-02 20:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-03 1:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-03 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-04 3:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-04 4:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-04 12:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-02 20:36 ` David Howells
2015-11-02 20:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-02 21:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-03 17:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-03 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-11 9:39 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-11 10:34 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-11 19:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 13:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-11 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-11 19:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-11 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-12 7:14 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 14:49 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 15:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:53 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 15:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:25 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 15:18 ` Boqun Feng
2015-11-12 18:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 18:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 19:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-11-12 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 21:33 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 23:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 13:58 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-12 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-12 22:09 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 15:56 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-11-16 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-16 16:24 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 16:46 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-16 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-17 11:51 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-17 21:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 11:25 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-19 18:01 ` Will Deacon
2015-11-20 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
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