From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] timer: relax tick stop in idle entry
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:00:31 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151117000031.GO5184@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151116154046.3e40c2cb@icelake>
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 03:40:46PM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:32:38 -0800
> Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11/16/2015 3:28 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > > Is this mostly an special-purpose embedded thing, or do you expect
> > > distros to be enabling this? If the former, I suggest
> > > , but if distros are doing this for
> > > general-purpose workloads, I instead suggest CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ.
> >
> > thermal overload happens a lot on small devices, but sadly also in
> > big datacenters where it is not uncommon to underprovision cooling
> > capacity by a bit (it's one of those "99% of the time you only need
> > THIS much, the 1% you need 30% more" and that more is expensive or
> > even impractical)
Then CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ it is.
> CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ is more inline with idle injection in that both
> are targeted energy efficiency.
> Checking ubuntu and fedora, seems both have CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL=y.
Ah, that is right -- they both do CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, which does imply
CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL=y. But SUSE does not, last I knew.
But it should be easy to set up Kconfig for this. Make your new Kconfig
option select CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ unless CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL is
already set. Alternatively, CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ could be set up
something like the following:
depends on (NO_HZ_COMMON && SMP && RCU_EXPERT) || CONFIG_THERM_THROT
default CONFIG_THERM_THROT
But the "select RCU_FAST_NO_HZ if !RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL" is probably cleaner.
Anyway, again, the details can be settled later.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-17 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-13 19:53 [PATCH 0/4] CFS idle injection Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 1/4] ktime: add a roundup function Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 20:11 ` John Stultz
2015-11-13 22:33 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 20:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-13 22:36 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 2/4] timer: relax tick stop in idle entry Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 20:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-13 22:24 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-16 15:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-16 21:51 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-16 22:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-17 0:09 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-19 17:43 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-19 19:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-19 19:21 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-19 19:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-19 23:41 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-16 22:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 23:05 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-16 23:15 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-16 23:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-16 23:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-11-16 23:40 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-17 0:00 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-11-16 22:32 ` Josh Triplett
2015-11-16 23:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-17 1:41 ` Josh Triplett
2015-11-17 2:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-17 2:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-11-17 5:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-17 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-17 12:57 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-17 13:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: introduce synchronized idle injection Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 20:23 ` kbuild test robot
2015-11-18 8:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-11-18 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-18 12:27 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-11-18 12:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-18 14:04 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-11-18 14:52 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-18 15:09 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-11-18 15:11 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-18 15:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-18 17:03 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-18 16:04 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-11-27 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-11-18 14:10 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-27 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-12-02 17:28 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-18 14:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-11-18 15:44 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-11-18 15:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-11-19 17:24 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-11-19 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 9:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-20 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 10:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-20 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-20 18:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-11 21:50 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-19 12:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-19 18:00 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-24 11:38 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-23 17:59 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-23 17:56 ` Javi Merino
2015-11-23 18:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-24 9:12 ` Javi Merino
2015-11-24 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-24 11:10 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-24 12:00 ` Javi Merino
2015-11-24 18:22 ` Jacob Pan
2015-11-25 9:41 ` Javi Merino
2015-11-13 19:53 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched: add trace event for " Jacob Pan
2015-11-13 20:10 ` kbuild test robot
2015-11-19 14:39 ` Javi Merino
2015-11-19 15:35 ` Jacob Pan
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