From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Amy Wiles <amy.l.wiles@intel.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/rapl: Do not load in a guest
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:19:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151204101954.GA21177@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151204082823.GA31591@gmail.com>
+ Paolo.
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:28:23AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > So when a hypervisor starts supporting RAPL we'll disable the driver erroneously?
> > >
> > > Isn't there any better method to detect RAPL support?
> > >
> > > So in particular in drivers/powercap/intel_rapl.c there's an enumerated list of
> > > CPU models, which is used via a x86_match_cpu() call. That's still not ideal (it
> > > does not work on hypervisors for example), but even better would be to detect RAPL
> > > support in some other fashion, that does not rely on us statically enumerating CPU
> > > models that support it.
> >
> > RAPL isn't enumerated, the best we could do is attempt to write to one
> > of the writable MSRs and see if that 'works'.
>
> Hm, bad - writing to MSRs like that is generally dangerous.
>
> So we should at least provide a central 'is RAPL available' call instead of
> spreading multiple X86_FEATURE_HYPERVISOR checks.
Well, looks like someone dropped the ball at the CPUID registrar. Other
features have more than one CPUID bit allocated to them, this one
doesn't have a single one.
And since there's no CPUID bit, I don't see any other way to detect the
RAPL presence. Poking at MSRs is a bad idea.
I wonder if we could go and allocate a bit in the kvm-emulated CPUID
leafs which says whether RAPL is supported or not.
Then we can go and check for that leaf on baremetal - if it is not
there, we do the vendor + fms check and if it is there, we know we're in
a guest and whether the guest supports it or not.
Dunno.
On the one hand, it looks like a bit too much to me.
On the other, it could be useful for other future feature checks where
we want baremetal and kvm to be synchronized wrt features and a single
method to be used by the kernel for checking features presence works
both on baremetal and virt.
Just a thought, anyway...
hpa, thoughts?
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-04 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-03 18:27 [PATCH] x86/rapl: Do not load in a guest Borislav Petkov
2015-12-03 18:38 ` Jacob Pan
2015-12-03 18:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-12-03 18:59 ` Jacob Pan
2015-12-03 23:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-12-03 23:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-12-04 1:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-12-04 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-12-04 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-04 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-12-04 10:19 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2015-12-04 10:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-12-04 10:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-12-04 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-12-04 17:46 ` Jacob Pan
2015-12-04 17:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-12-04 18:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-12-04 18:16 ` Jacob Pan
2015-12-04 18:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-12-04 18:37 ` Jacob Pan
2015-12-04 19:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-12-04 17:51 ` Jacob Pan
2015-12-04 22:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-04 22:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
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