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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>, KY Sri nivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] printk: Hand over printing to console if printing too long
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:36:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160106083653.GA10678@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160106033830.GB781@swordfish>

On (01/06/16 12:38), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (01/05/16 15:48), Jan Kara wrote:
> > > [..]
> > > > cond_resched() does its job there, of course. well, a user process still can
> > > > do a lot of call_console_drivers() calls. may be we can check who is calling
> > > > console_unlock() and if we have "!printk_sync && !oops_in_progress" (or just printk_sync
> > > > test) AND a user process then return from console_unlock() doing irq_work_queue()
> > > > and set PRINTK_PENDING_OUTPUT pending bit, the way vprintk_emit() does it.
> > > 
> > > attached two patches, I ended up having on top of yours. just in case.
> > > 
> > >     printk: factor out can_printk_async()
> > >     
> > >     console_unlock() can be called directly or indirectly by a user
> > >     space process, so it can end up doing call_console_drivers() loop,
> > >     which will hold it from returning back to user-space from a syscall
> > >     for unpredictable amount of time.
> > >     
> > >     Factor out can_printk_async() function, which queues an irq work and
> > >     sets a PRINTK_PENDING_OUTPUT pending bit (if we can do async printk).
> > >     vprintk_emit() already does it, add can_printk_async() call to
> > >     console_unlock() for !PF_KTHREAD processes.
> > 
> > I'd be cautious about changing this userspace visible behavior. Someone may
> > be relying on it... I agree that sometimes we can block userspace process
> > in kernel for a long time (e.g. in my testing I often see syslog process
> > doing the printing) but so far I didn't see / was notified about some real
> > problem with this. So unless I see some real user issues with user
> > processes doing printing for too long I would not touch this.
> 
> and w/o a lot of effort (no heavy printk message traffic)

or like this on another setup ([k|u]_ts updated to u64)

# cat /proc/1/time_in_console_unlock
kern:[12.755920] user:[38.367332]

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-06  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-10 14:52 [PATCH 1/7] printk: Hand over printing to console if printing too long Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-10 15:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-11  4:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-11  6:29   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-22 13:47 ` Jan Kara
2015-12-22 14:48   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-23  1:54   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-23  3:37     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-23  3:57       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-23  4:15         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-05 14:37     ` Jan Kara
2016-01-06  1:41       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-06  6:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-06 12:25         ` Jan Kara
2016-01-11 13:25           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-31  2:44   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-31  3:13     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-12-31  4:58       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-05 14:48         ` Jan Kara
2016-01-06  3:38           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-06  8:36             ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-01-06 10:21               ` Jan Kara
2016-01-06 11:10                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-11 12:54   ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12 14:00     ` Jan Kara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-10-26  4:52 [PATCH 0/6 v2] printk: Softlockup avoidance Jan Kara
2015-10-26  4:52 ` [PATCH 1/7] printk: Hand over printing to console if printing too long Jan Kara
2016-03-01 17:22   ` Denys Vlasenko
2016-03-02  9:30     ` Jan Kara

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