From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934356AbcAKTMa (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:12:30 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:42180 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759074AbcAKTM2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:12:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:12:26 -0800 From: Darren Hart To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBLxJlwaWXFhA==?= Cc: Pali =?iso-8859-1?Q?Roh=E1r?= , Matthew Garrett , platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] dell-wmi: process Dell Instant Launch hotkey on Dell Vostro V131 Message-ID: <20160111191226.GF10643@malice.jf.intel.com> References: <20151130211542.GE30553@malice.jf.intel.com> <1654e7bcde98f1cf89f698a1e359110c06c6fcd4.1448999372.git.kernel@kempniu.pl> <20151204011606.GI1800@malice.jf.intel.com> <20151204085624.GN10982@pali> <20151204132745.GA13441@eudyptula.hq.kempniu.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20151204132745.GA13441@eudyptula.hq.kempniu.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:27:45PM +0100, Michał Kępień wrote: > > This patch is not enough for enabling 0xe025 key on that Vostro machine. > > Some extra SMBIOS call is needed, without them ACPI will not send WMI > > keypress event. > > Indeed. But have you read the last e-mail I wrote before submitting the > original patch [1]? Brightness control on the V131 is already broken > "out of the box" with newer kernels (flickering upon brightness change), > but if we do what you're suggesting and include the SMI call in the > kernel, we'll break it even more, to the point where pressing one of the > brightness control keys might not result in any brightness change at > all. Sure, we can fix that by overriding an arbitrary ACPI method. Oh, > wait, did I say "fix"? > > I posted the patch without the SMI call because that way if you want to > use the Dell Instant Launch hotkey, you just fire up a userspace script > (which uses libsmbios and takes care of overriding the ACPI method) and > chances are you will end up with a fully functional system. Of course > you need to understand that using this script is not an elegant solution > and that it might break something else, but it's your choice, not the > kernel's. And the patch itself does not change kernel's default > behavior, so we're not risking breaking any other models out there. > > > At least I think this one patch should not be included into kernel until > > there will be full support for 0xe025 key (adding that SMBIOS call). > > Again, fully supporting the Dell Instant Launch hotkey makes brightness > control even more broken than it has to be. In other words, everything > is terrible. > > The only real solution to all these issues is a BIOS fix and I'm pretty > sure it's not happening. > > [1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/platform-driver-x86/msg07679.html > I have this patch as still pending review, and I *think* where we are is Pali had some objections but Michal felt they didn't help address the problem. Where are we? -- Darren Hart Intel Open Source Technology Center