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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@unitn.it>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 7/8] Make GRUB a task's flag
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:41:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160115084150.GD3421@worktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5698AAAB.9040606@unitn.it>

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:15:39AM +0100, Luca Abeni wrote:
> On 01/14/2016 08:56 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> >Something with an average runtime/budget that also puts limits on the
> >max (say 2*avg) would be far more amenable to be exposed to unpriv
> >tasks, except since that would directly result in an average tardiness
> >bound this might be non-trivial to combine with tasks not opting for
> >this.

> I'll try to think about this... The advantage of GRUB is that a theoretically
> sound algorithm already existed; here, we would need to design the algorithm
> so that it does not break the SCHED_DEADLINE guarantees. Anyway, this is an
> interesting challenge, I'll work on it :)

Didn't Baruah and Jim do the whole theory on statistical EDF? Which
shows that if you use a statistical budget the combined distribution
transfers to the tardiness. With stdev=0 for the budgets this trivially
collapses to the regular EDF, since then the combined distribution is
also stdev=0 and you get 0 tardiness (on UP).

But yes, combining the two into one scheduler is 'interesting'. I was
thinking it would be possible with least-laxity-first, since you can
assign the hard (stdev=0) tasks a tighter laxity bound.

But LLF is horrendously painful to implement IIRC.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-15  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-14 15:24 [RFC 0/8] CPU reclaiming for SCHED_DEADLINE Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 1/8] Track the active utilisation Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 16:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  6:37     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:07     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 2/8] Correctly track the active utilisation for migrating tasks Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 3/8] sched/deadline: add some tracepoints Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 4/8] Improve the tracking of active utilisation Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 17:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  6:48     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:27     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-19 12:20     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-19 13:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 13:36         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-27 14:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 14:45             ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-28 13:08               ` Vincent Guittot
     [not found]               ` <CAKfTPtAt0gTwk9aAZN238NT1O-zJvxVQDTh2QN_KxAnE61xMww@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-28 13:48                 ` luca abeni
2016-01-28 13:56                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-01-28 11:14             ` luca abeni
2016-01-28 12:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-28 13:41                 ` luca abeni
2016-01-28 14:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-28 21:15                     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:10     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 5/8] Track the "total rq utilisation" too Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:04     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  6:50     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:15         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-29 15:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-29 21:21             ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 6/8] GRUB accounting Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:05     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 7/8] Make GRUB a task's flag Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:15     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:41       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-01-15  9:08         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 8/8] Do not reclaim the whole CPU bandwidth Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:21     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:49         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-26 12:52         ` luca abeni
2016-01-27 14:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-02 20:53             ` Luca Abeni
2016-02-03 11:30               ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 13:28                 ` luca abeni
2016-01-19 10:11 ` [RFC 0/8] CPU reclaiming for SCHED_DEADLINE Juri Lelli
2016-01-19 11:50   ` Luca Abeni

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