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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: timers: HARDIRQ-safe -> HARDIRQ-unsafe lock order detected
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:11:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160115211125.GA3818@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1601151102320.3575@nanos>

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:03:24AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Untested patch below.
> > 
> > One small fix to make it build below.  Started rcutorture, somewhat
> > pointlessly given that the splat doesn't appear on my setup.
> 
> Well, at least it tells us whether the change explodes by itself.

Hmmm...

So this is a strange one.  I have been seeing increasing instability
in mainline over the past couple of releases, with the main symptom
being that the kernel decides that awakening RCU's grace-period kthreads
is an optional activity.  The usual situation is that the kthread is
blocked for tens of seconds in an wait_event_interruptible_timeout(),
despite having a three-jiffy timeout.  Doing periodic wakeups from
the scheduling-clock interrupt seems to clear things up, but such hacks
should not be necessary.

Normally, I have to run for for some hours to have a good chance of seeing
this happen.  This change triggered in a 30-minute run.  Not only that,
but in a .config scenario that is normally very hard to trigger.  This
scenario does involve CPU hotplug, and I am re-running with CPU hotplug
disabled.

That said, I am starting to hear reports of people hitting this without
CPU hotplug operations...

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-15 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-12 20:03 timers: HARDIRQ-safe -> HARDIRQ-unsafe lock order detected Sasha Levin
2016-01-12 20:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-12 20:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-13  9:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-13 16:16   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 17:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-14 18:18       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 19:47         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-15  1:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15 10:03             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-15 21:11               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-01-15 22:10                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15 23:14                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-29 15:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-31  0:28                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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