From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> Linux Kernel Mailing List"
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: regression 4.4: deadlock in with cgroup percpu_rwsem
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:51:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160126145157.GA31177@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160125193836.GH3628@mtj.duckdns.org>
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 02:38:36PM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:49:42AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > FYI, my use case was also related to percpu-ref. The percpu ref API
> > is unfortunately really hard to use and will almost always involve
> > a work queue due to the complex interaction between percpu_ref_kill
> > and percpu_ref_exit. One thing that would help a lot of callers would
>
> That's interesting. Can you please elaborate on how kill and exit
> interact to make things complex?
That we need to first call kill to tear down the reference, then we get
a release callback which is in the calling context of the last
percpu_ref_put, but will need to call percpu_ref_exit from process context
again. This means if any percpu_ref_put is from non-process context
we will always need a work_struct or similar to schedule the final
percpu_ref_exit. Except when..
> > be a percpu_ref_exit_sync that kills the ref and waits for all references
> > to go away synchronously.
>
> That shouldn't be difficult to implement. One minor concern is that
> it's almost guaranteed that there will be cases where the
> synchronicity is exposed to userland. Anyways, can you please
> describe the use case?
We use this completion scheme where the percpu_ref_exit is done from
the same context as the percpu_ref_kill which previously waits for
the last reference drop. But for these cases exposing the synchronicity
to the caller (including userland) actually is intentional.
My use case is a new storage target, broadly similar to the SCSI target,
which happens to exhibit the same behavior. In that case we only want
to return from the teardown function when all I/O on a 'queue' of sorts
has finished, for example during module removal.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-26 14:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-14 11:19 regression 4.4: deadlock in with cgroup percpu_rwsem Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-14 13:38 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-14 14:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-01-14 14:08 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-14 14:27 ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-01-14 17:15 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-14 19:56 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-15 7:30 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-15 15:13 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-18 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-18 18:48 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-19 9:55 ` Heiko Carstens
2016-01-19 19:36 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-19 19:38 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-20 7:07 ` Heiko Carstens
2016-01-20 10:15 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-20 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 15:30 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-20 16:04 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-20 16:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-20 16:56 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-23 2:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-25 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-25 19:38 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-26 14:51 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2016-01-26 15:28 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-26 16:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-20 10:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21 8:23 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-21 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15 16:40 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-19 17:18 ` [PATCH cgroup/for-4.5-fixes] cpuset: make mm migration asynchronous Tejun Heo
2016-01-22 14:24 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-22 15:22 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-22 15:45 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-01-22 15:47 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-22 15:23 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-21 20:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroup: make sure a parent css isn't offlined before its children Tejun Heo
2016-01-21 20:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] cgroup: make sure a parent css isn't freed " Tejun Heo
2016-01-22 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2016-01-21 21:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroup: make sure a parent css isn't offlined " Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21 21:28 ` Tejun Heo
2016-01-22 8:18 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-29 11:13 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/cgroup: Fix cgroup entity load tracking tear-down tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] cgroup: make sure a parent css isn't offlined before its children Tejun Heo
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