From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@imgtec.com>,
"David Daney" <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>,
"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
"Ralf Baechle" <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
boqun.feng@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] mips: Fix arch_spin_unlock()
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:57:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160128095718.GC30928@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160127233836.GQ4503@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:38:36PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:21:58PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:54:21PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:43:48AM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > Do you know whether a SYNC 18 (RELEASE) followed in program order by a
> > > > SYNC 17 (ACQUIRE) creates a full barrier (i.e. something like SYNC 16)?
> > > >
> > > > If not, you may need to implement smp_mb__after_unlock_lock for RCU
> > > > to ensure globally transitive unlock->lock ordering should you decide
> > > > to relax your locking barriers.
> > >
> > > You know that is a tricky question. Maybe its easier if you give the 3
> > > cpu litmus test that goes with it.
> >
> > Sure, I was building up to that. I just wanted to make sure the basics
> > were there (program-order, so same CPU) before we go any further. It
> > sounds like they are, so that's promising.
> >
> > > Maciej, the tricky point is what, if any, effect the
> > > SYNC_RELEASE+SYNC_ACQUIRE pair has on an unrelated CPU. Please review
> > > the TRANSITIVITY section in Documentation/memory-barriers.txt and
> > > replace <general barrier> with the RELEASE+ACQUIRE pair.
> > >
> > > We've all (Will, Paul and me) had much 'fun' trying to decipher the
> > > MIPS64r6 manual but failed to reach a conclusion on this.
> >
> > For the inter-thread case, Paul had a previous example along the lines
> > of:
> >
> >
> > Wx=1
> > WyRel=1
> >
> > RyAcq=1
> > Rz=0
> >
> > Wz=1
> > smp_mb()
> > Rx=0
>
> Each paragraph being a separate thread, correct? If so, agreed.
Yes, sorry for the shorthand:
- Each paragraph is a separate thread
- Wx=1 means WRITE_ONCE(x, 1), Rx=1 means READ_ONCE(x) returns 1
- WxRel means smp_store_release(x,1), RxAcq=1 means smp_load_acquire(x)
returns 1
- Everything is initially zero
> > and I suppose a variant of that:
> >
> >
> > Wx=1
> > WyRel=1
> >
> > RyAcq=1
> > Wz=1
> >
> > Rz=1
> > <address dependency>
> > Rx=0
>
> Agreed, this would be needed as well, along with the read-read and
> read-write variants. I picked the write-read version (Will's first
> test above) because write-read reordering is the most likely on
> hardware that I am aware of.
Question: if you replaced "Wz=1" with "WzRel=1" in my second test, would
it then be forbidden?
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-28 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-12 12:31 [RFC][PATCH] mips: Fix arch_spin_unlock() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 12:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 13:31 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-12 14:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 14:50 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-12 14:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 17:46 ` David Daney
2015-11-12 18:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 18:13 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-12 18:17 ` David Daney
2016-01-27 9:57 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-27 11:43 ` Will Deacon
2016-01-27 12:41 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-28 1:11 ` Boqun Feng
2016-01-27 14:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 15:21 ` Will Deacon
2016-01-27 23:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-28 9:57 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-01-28 22:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-29 9:59 ` Will Deacon
2016-01-29 10:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-01 13:56 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 3:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 5:19 ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 6:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 8:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 8:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 9:34 ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 17:51 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 19:30 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-03 19:13 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-03 8:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 13:32 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-03 19:03 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-09 11:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-09 11:42 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 12:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 22:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 14:49 ` Ralf Baechle
2016-02-02 14:54 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-02-02 14:58 ` Ralf Baechle
2016-02-02 15:51 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-02-02 17:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-02 22:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 11:45 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 12:12 ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 12:20 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 13:18 ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 17:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 17:37 ` Will Deacon
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