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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>, Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/mutex: Avoid spinner vs waiter starvation
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 13:19:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202211906.GD16147@linux-uzut.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160201100824.GO6357@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, 01 Feb 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

>Subject: locking/mutex: Avoid spinner vs waiter starvation
>From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:06:53 +0100
>
>Ding Tianhong reported that under his load the optimistic spinners
>would totally starve a task that ended up on the wait list.
>
>Fix this by ensuring the top waiter also partakes in the optimistic
>spin queue.
>
>There are a few subtle differences between the assumed state of
>regular optimistic spinners and those already on the wait list, which
>result in the @acquired complication of the acquire path.
>
>Most notable are:
>
> - waiters are on the wait list and need to be taken off
> - mutex_optimistic_spin() sets the lock->count to 0 on acquire
>   even though there might be more tasks on the wait list.

Right, the main impact I see with these complications are that the
window of when a waiter takes the lock via spinning and then acquires
the wait_lock to remove itself from the list, will allow an unlock
thread to set the lock as available in the fastpath which could in
turn allow a third thread the steal the lock. With high contention,
this window will be come obviously larger as we contend for the
wait_lock.

CPU-0	      	 	       	    CPU-1			CPU-3
__mutex_lock_common		    
   mutex_optimistic_spin
   (->count now 0)
			__mutex_fastpath_unlock
			(->count now 1)				 __mutex_fastpath_lock
				     				 (stolen)
														
spin_lock_mutex(&lock->wait_lock, flags);

But we've always been bad when it comes to counter and waiters.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-21  9:29 [PATCH RFC] locking/mutexes: don't spin on owner when wait list is not NULL Ding Tianhong
2016-01-21 21:23 ` Tim Chen
2016-01-22  2:41   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-22  2:48     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-01-22  3:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-21 23:02 ` Waiman Long
2016-01-22  6:09   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-01-22 13:38     ` Waiman Long
2016-01-22 16:46       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-01-25  2:23         ` [PATCH] locking/mutex: Allow next waiter lockless wakeup Davidlohr Bueso
2016-01-25 23:02           ` Waiman Long
2016-02-29 11:21           ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Davidlohr Bueso
2016-01-22  8:54   ` [PATCH RFC] locking/mutexes: don't spin on owner when wait list is not NULL Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 10:20     ` Jason Low
2016-01-22 10:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 10:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 11:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 13:59             ` Waiman Long
2016-01-24  8:03               ` Ding Tianhong
2016-01-29  9:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-30  1:18                   ` Ding Tianhong
2016-02-01  3:29                     ` huang ying
2016-02-01  3:35                       ` Huang, Ying
2016-02-01 10:08                     ` [PATCH] locking/mutex: Avoid spinner vs waiter starvation Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-02 21:19                       ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2016-02-03  7:10                         ` Ding Tianhong
2016-02-03 19:24                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-02-04  1:20                             ` Ding Tianhong
2016-02-12 18:33                               ` Waiman Long
2016-02-03 22:07                         ` Waiman Long
2016-02-04  1:35                       ` Jason Low
2016-02-04  8:55                         ` huang ying
2016-02-04 22:49                           ` Jason Low
2016-01-22 13:41     ` [PATCH RFC] locking/mutexes: don't spin on owner when wait list is not NULL Waiman Long

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