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From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
Cc: Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:09:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160218130916.GL1859@kuha.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455787308.1384.11.camel@suse.com>

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:21:48AM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 10:47 +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > The modes that can actually be selected have to be supported by both
> > the connector and the partner, and this is where I'm putting the ball
> > on the userspace at the moment. I'm not offering a list of
> > "possible_alternate_modes" where I list the combination, but instead
> > expect the userspace to be figure out that on it's own.
> > 
> > Do you think we should add "possible_alternate_modes" file?
> 
> No, what do we answer to the DFP if we recieve "Discover SVIDs"?
> I don't think that we always should answer with all we physically
> can. If, for example, the hardware could do Thunderbolt, but the OS
> is not prepared to handle it, we shouldn't offer it. So this is
> a policy decision to be made in user space. Hence we need
> an API to tell it to the kernel.

OK. Makes sense.

> > P.S. That reminds me, here's my current draft for the
> > Documentation/ABI/. Could you take a look?
> 
> OK
> 
> Here are my comments:
> 
> What:		/sys/class/type-c/usbcN/connected
> 
> 		Connection status of the USB Type-C connector usbcN. "yes" when
> 		connected, otherwise "no".
> 
> Unnecessarily wordy. 0 and 1 would do

That works for me.

> What:		/sys/class/type-c/usbcN/current_data_role
> 
> Again, 0 and 1 would do

I disagree with this one. What would 0 mean and what would 1? It would
require us to make an agreement about the "index" of the role, which
creates a small risk of somebody getting it wrong, but for what
purpose?

Why couldn't it be human readable "host" or "device" so there is never
no confusion about it.

> What:		/sys/class/type-c/usbcN/partner_alternate_modes
> 
> You should say in which number base the values are given.
> 
> What:		/sys/class/type-c/usbcN/partner_type
> 
> That could be combined with "connected"

Hmm, so in practice getting rid of "connected" completely.. I guess
it's OK.

> What:		/sys/class/type-c/usbcN/supported_data_roles
> 
> A connector can be both. How is that expressed?

"host, device".

> What:		/sys/class/type-c/usbcN/supported_power_roles
> 
> Again, what if it can do both?

"source, sink".

So these last two are now listing the values that can be entered to
the current_data_role and current_power_role.


Thanks,

-- 
heikki

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-18 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-09 17:01 [PATCH 0/3] usb: USB Type-C Class and driver for UCSI Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:20   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:38     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 17:26       ` Greg KH
2016-02-11 14:07         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 10:49   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 11:05     ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 11:11       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 11:14         ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 11:23     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-15 15:16       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11  8:55     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-11  9:08       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 14:51         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-11 14:36       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-11 14:56         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 14:07   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  8:47     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18  9:21       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 13:09         ` Heikki Krogerus [this message]
2016-02-18  9:35       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 13:25         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 13:44           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 15:13             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-26 13:09             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] usb: type-c: USB Type-C Connector System Software Interface Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:21   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:30     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 17:20       ` Greg KH
2016-02-11 13:50         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-15 15:30           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-16  9:22             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-16 13:39               ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17  7:58                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17  9:03                   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 10:29                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 10:36                       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 11:11                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 13:36                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 14:28                             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18  9:07                               ` Peter Chen
2016-02-18 10:44                                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 10:37                               ` Rajaram R
2016-02-18 10:47                                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 11:06                                   ` Rajaram R
2016-02-17 13:34                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 13:51                           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  7:08                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-18 10:18                               ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 10:30                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-18 10:40                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  9:29       ` Peter Chen
2016-02-18  9:44         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 11:19   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 12:04     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 11:56   ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 13:21     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 14:02       ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 15:11         ` Bjørn Mork
2016-02-11  8:26           ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-11  8:59             ` Bjørn Mork
2016-02-10 14:15     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 14:24       ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 15:08         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]           ` <CAHp75VfmGsskf7Cmni3b4=tCbkPsR8d3jPYiv93Lm6DM9gq1-g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-11  8:13             ` Fwd: " Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-11 14:10               ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 13:04   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 14:08     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] usb: type-c: UCSI ACPI driver Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:22   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:23     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 18:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] usb: USB Type-C Class and driver for UCSI Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  9:21   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 19:34 ` Rajaram R
2016-02-18 11:05   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 11:15     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-05  3:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06  6:50   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-05-06  8:05     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06  8:29       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 14:10         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06  8:23     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06  8:08   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 14:08     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-11  3:14     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-11  9:40       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-11 14:47         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-13 14:23           ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-13 17:48             ` Guenter Roeck

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