From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
Cc: Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:09:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160218130916.GL1859@kuha.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455787308.1384.11.camel@suse.com>
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:21:48AM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 10:47 +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > The modes that can actually be selected have to be supported by both
> > the connector and the partner, and this is where I'm putting the ball
> > on the userspace at the moment. I'm not offering a list of
> > "possible_alternate_modes" where I list the combination, but instead
> > expect the userspace to be figure out that on it's own.
> >
> > Do you think we should add "possible_alternate_modes" file?
>
> No, what do we answer to the DFP if we recieve "Discover SVIDs"?
> I don't think that we always should answer with all we physically
> can. If, for example, the hardware could do Thunderbolt, but the OS
> is not prepared to handle it, we shouldn't offer it. So this is
> a policy decision to be made in user space. Hence we need
> an API to tell it to the kernel.
OK. Makes sense.
> > P.S. That reminds me, here's my current draft for the
> > Documentation/ABI/. Could you take a look?
>
> OK
>
> Here are my comments:
>
> What: /sys/class/type-c/usbcN/connected
>
> Connection status of the USB Type-C connector usbcN. "yes" when
> connected, otherwise "no".
>
> Unnecessarily wordy. 0 and 1 would do
That works for me.
> What: /sys/class/type-c/usbcN/current_data_role
>
> Again, 0 and 1 would do
I disagree with this one. What would 0 mean and what would 1? It would
require us to make an agreement about the "index" of the role, which
creates a small risk of somebody getting it wrong, but for what
purpose?
Why couldn't it be human readable "host" or "device" so there is never
no confusion about it.
> What: /sys/class/type-c/usbcN/partner_alternate_modes
>
> You should say in which number base the values are given.
>
> What: /sys/class/type-c/usbcN/partner_type
>
> That could be combined with "connected"
Hmm, so in practice getting rid of "connected" completely.. I guess
it's OK.
> What: /sys/class/type-c/usbcN/supported_data_roles
>
> A connector can be both. How is that expressed?
"host, device".
> What: /sys/class/type-c/usbcN/supported_power_roles
>
> Again, what if it can do both?
"source, sink".
So these last two are now listing the values that can be entered to
the current_data_role and current_power_role.
Thanks,
--
heikki
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-18 13:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-09 17:01 [PATCH 0/3] usb: USB Type-C Class and driver for UCSI Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:20 ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:38 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 17:26 ` Greg KH
2016-02-11 14:07 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 10:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 11:05 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 11:11 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 11:14 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 11:23 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-15 15:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 8:55 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-11 9:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 14:51 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-11 14:36 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-11 14:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 14:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 8:47 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 9:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 13:09 ` Heikki Krogerus [this message]
2016-02-18 9:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 13:25 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 13:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 15:13 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-26 13:09 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] usb: type-c: USB Type-C Connector System Software Interface Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:21 ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:30 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 17:20 ` Greg KH
2016-02-11 13:50 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-15 15:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-16 9:22 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-16 13:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 7:58 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 9:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 10:29 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 10:36 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 11:11 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 13:36 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 14:28 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 9:07 ` Peter Chen
2016-02-18 10:44 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 10:37 ` Rajaram R
2016-02-18 10:47 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 11:06 ` Rajaram R
2016-02-17 13:34 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 13:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 7:08 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-18 10:18 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 10:30 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-18 10:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 9:29 ` Peter Chen
2016-02-18 9:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 11:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 12:04 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 11:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 13:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 14:02 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 15:11 ` Bjørn Mork
2016-02-11 8:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-11 8:59 ` Bjørn Mork
2016-02-10 14:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 14:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 15:08 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <CAHp75VfmGsskf7Cmni3b4=tCbkPsR8d3jPYiv93Lm6DM9gq1-g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-11 8:13 ` Fwd: " Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-11 14:10 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 13:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 14:08 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] usb: type-c: UCSI ACPI driver Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:22 ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:23 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 18:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] usb: USB Type-C Class and driver for UCSI Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 9:21 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 19:34 ` Rajaram R
2016-02-18 11:05 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 11:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-05 3:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06 6:50 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-05-06 8:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06 8:29 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 14:10 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06 8:23 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 8:08 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 14:08 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-11 3:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-11 9:40 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-11 14:47 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-13 14:23 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-13 17:48 ` Guenter Roeck
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