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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>
Cc: "linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: x86 memory barrier: why does Linux prefer MFENCE to Locked ADD?
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 16:27:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160303152739.GA16303@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BLUPR03MB1410A48DDA4C0A4902A8E163BFBD0@BLUPR03MB1410.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>


* Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> My understanding about arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h is: obviously Linux
> more likes {L,S,M}FENCE -- Locked ADD is only used in x86_32 platforms that
> don't support XMM2.
> 
> However, it looks people say Locked Add is much faster than the FENCE
> instructions, even on modern Intel CPUs like Haswell, e.g., please see
> the three sources:
> 
> " 11.5.1 Locked Instructions as Memory Barriers
> Optimization
> Use locked instructions to implement Store/Store and Store/Load barriers.
> "
> http://support.amd.com/TechDocs/47414_15h_sw_opt_guide.pdf
> 
> "lock addl %(rsp), 0 is a better solution for StoreLoad barrier ":
> http://shipilev.net/blog/2014/on-the-fence-with-dependencies/
> 
> "...locked instruction are more efficient barriers...":
> http://www.pvk.ca/Blog/2014/10/19/performance-optimisation-~-writing-an-essay/
> 
> I also found that FreeBSD prefers Locked Add.
> 
> So, I'm curious why Linux prefers MFENCE.
> I guess I may be missing something.
> 
> I tried to google the question, but didn't find an answer.

It's being worked on, see this thread on lkml from a few weeks ago:

   C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir    | [PATCH v3 0/4] x86: faster mb()+documentation tweaks
   C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir    | ├─>[PATCH v3 1/4] x86: add cc clobber for addl
   C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir    | ├─>[PATCH v3 2/4] x86: drop a comment left over from X86_OOSTORE
   C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir    | ├─>[PATCH v3 3/4] x86: tweak the comment about use of wmb for IO
   C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir    | ├─>[PATCH v3 4/4] x86: drop mfence in favor of lock+addl

The 4th patch changes MFENCE to a LOCK ADDL locked instruction.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-03 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 14:33 x86 memory barrier: why does Linux prefer MFENCE to Locked ADD? Dexuan Cui
2016-03-03 15:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-03-03 15:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 18:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-03 19:05       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-03 13:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03  4:36         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-03 12:50           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2016-08-03 13:04             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-03 23:19               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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