From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
"linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: x86 memory barrier: why does Linux prefer MFENCE to Locked ADD?
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 16:34:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160303153453.GR6356@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160303152739.GA16303@gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 04:27:39PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > My understanding about arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h is: obviously Linux
> > more likes {L,S,M}FENCE -- Locked ADD is only used in x86_32 platforms that
> > don't support XMM2.
> >
> > However, it looks people say Locked Add is much faster than the FENCE
> > instructions, even on modern Intel CPUs like Haswell, e.g., please see
> > the three sources:
> >
> > " 11.5.1 Locked Instructions as Memory Barriers
> > Optimization
> > Use locked instructions to implement Store/Store and Store/Load barriers.
> > "
> > http://support.amd.com/TechDocs/47414_15h_sw_opt_guide.pdf
> >
> > "lock addl %(rsp), 0 is a better solution for StoreLoad barrier ":
> > http://shipilev.net/blog/2014/on-the-fence-with-dependencies/
> >
> > "...locked instruction are more efficient barriers...":
> > http://www.pvk.ca/Blog/2014/10/19/performance-optimisation-~-writing-an-essay/
> >
> > I also found that FreeBSD prefers Locked Add.
> >
> > So, I'm curious why Linux prefers MFENCE.
> > I guess I may be missing something.
> >
> > I tried to google the question, but didn't find an answer.
>
> It's being worked on, see this thread on lkml from a few weeks ago:
>
> C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir | [PATCH v3 0/4] x86: faster mb()+documentation tweaks
> C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir | ├─>[PATCH v3 1/4] x86: add cc clobber for addl
> C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir | ├─>[PATCH v3 2/4] x86: drop a comment left over from X86_OOSTORE
> C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir | ├─>[PATCH v3 3/4] x86: tweak the comment about use of wmb for IO
> C Jan 13 Michael S. Tsir | ├─>[PATCH v3 4/4] x86: drop mfence in favor of lock+addl
>
> The 4th patch changes MFENCE to a LOCK ADDL locked instruction.
Lots of additional chatter here:
lkml.kernel.org/r/20160112150032-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com
And some useful bits here:
lkml.kernel.org/r/56957D54.5000602@zytor.com
latest version here:
lkml.kernel.org/r/1453921746-16178-1-git-send-email-mst@redhat.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-03 15:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-03 14:33 x86 memory barrier: why does Linux prefer MFENCE to Locked ADD? Dexuan Cui
2016-03-03 15:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-03 15:34 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-03-03 18:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-03 19:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-03 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 4:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-03 12:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2016-08-03 13:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-03 23:19 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20160303153453.GR6356@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net \
--to=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=decui@microsoft.com \
--cc=dhowells@redhat.com \
--cc=hpa@zytor.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=mst@redhat.com \
--cc=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox