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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ross Green <rgkernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Lai Jiangshan" <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"pranith kumar" <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 07:18:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160304151824.GR3577@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANfgCY1GhBrWDYREp6gNzfTYj_P18Vk_p6zmocKfFvw7E2wi1A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 04:30:12PM +1100, Ross Green wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

[ . . . ]

> >> OK, so what wakeup path omits the sched_wakeup event?
> >>
> >> The sched_waking event looks to occur once in try_to_wake_up() and
> >> once in try_to_wake_up_local().  Starting with try_to_wake_up():
> >>
> >> o     If the task is ->on_rq, ttwu_remote() is invoked:
> >>
> >>       o       This acquires the runqueue lock, then if
> >>               task_on_rq_queued() invokes ttwu_do_wakeup().  This
> >>               unconditionally does sched_wakeup, so we didn't go that
> >>               way.  (And this path skips the bulk of try_to_wake_up()
> >>               on return.)
> >>
> >>       o       Otherwise, we release the runqueu lock and returns zero.
> >>
> >> o     There is some ordering checking, runqueue selection, and then
> >>       p->state is set to TASK_WAKING.  And we apparently are not getting
> >>       here, either.  But I don't see any other way out.
> >>
> >>       Ignoring this for the moment...
> >>
> >>       We eventually reach to the call to ttwu_queue().
> >>
> >>       o       Here the TTWU_QUEUE path seems to avoid doing a
> >>               sched_wakeup event -- and since we are trying to wake
> >>               CPU 0 from CPU 4, so they don't share cache (x86).
> >>
> >>       o       This invokes ttwu_queue_remote(), which sends an IPI
> >>               unless polling is in effect.  I would need to enable
> >>               trace_sched_wake_idle_without_ipi() to see whether or
> >>               not the IPI was actually sent.
> >>
> >>               If the target CPU was offline, we should have seen the
> >>               cpu_is_offline() WARN_ON().  I suppose that the CPU might
> >>               go offline between the check and the ->send_IPI_mask(),
> >>               but only once.  And we are trying to wakeup on CPU 0
> >>               quite a few times.
> >>
> >>       Any thoughts on what to look for?
> >>
> >> Next, try_to_wake_up_local():
> >>
> >> o     After doing several checks, it does the sched_waking event.
> >>
> >> o     If the task is already queued, it calls ttwu_activate().
> >>
> >> o     It then invokes ttwu_do_wakeup(), which unconditionally
> >>       does the sched_wakeup() event.
> >>
> >>       So this path looks unlikely, even ignoring the fact that
> >>       the waking CPU in the traces above is always different than
> >>       the CPU to be awakened on.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>                                                       Thanx, Paul
> G'day,
> 
> 
> Here is a series of rcu_preempt stall events(5) from linux-4.5-rc6 release.
> 
> Again some testing procedure. boot, run series of brief benchmarks and
> then leave idle.
> The first stall event appeared quite quickly - within hours, the rest
> at what appears to be random intervals after that.
> 
> 
> I thought I might give Daniels patch set a try and see how that goes!

Looks like the same issue from dmesg.

For my part, I added more tracing, which seems to have further decreased
the probability of occurrence.  The sched_wake_idle_without_ipi event
did not appear.

My next step is to try writing a torture test focused specifically on
this issue.  We need a faster reproducer to make decent progress.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-04 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-09 10:11 rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17 Ross Green
2016-02-17  5:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 19:28   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 19:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-17 20:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 23:19         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-18 11:51           ` Ross Green
2016-02-18 23:14             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-02-19  3:56               ` Ross Green
2016-02-19  4:13                 ` John Stultz
2016-02-19 17:33                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-20  4:34                     ` Ross Green
2016-02-20  6:32                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-21  5:04                         ` Ross Green
2016-02-21 18:15                           ` Ross Green
2016-02-23 20:34                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-02-23 20:55                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-23 21:28                                 ` Ross Green
2016-02-25  5:13                                   ` Ross Green
2016-02-26  0:56                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-26  1:35                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-04  5:30                                         ` Ross Green
2016-03-04 15:18                                           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-03-18 21:00                                       ` Josh Triplett
2016-03-18 23:56                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-21 16:22                                           ` Jacob Pan
2016-03-21 17:26                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-22 16:35                                               ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-22 17:40                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-22 21:04                                                   ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-22 21:19                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-23 17:15                                                       ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-23 18:20                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-23 18:25                                                           ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-23 19:50                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-25 21:24                                                           ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-25 21:46                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 12:29                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-26 15:28                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 18:49                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 22:22                                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27  1:34                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 13:48                                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 15:40                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:00                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:45                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:06                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28  6:25                                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:08                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29  0:25                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29  0:28                                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29 13:49                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 14:55                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-31 15:42                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-04-03  8:18                                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-06  6:25                                                                                                 ` Ross Green
2016-05-07 15:25                                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-10  2:36                                                                                                     ` Ross Green
2016-06-30 17:52                                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28  1:44                                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28  2:23                                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28  6:13                                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:50                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 14:15                                                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 20:53                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:07                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:54                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:09                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28  6:28                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:29                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 15:07                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 15:56                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 16:12                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 16:29                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 12:58                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-03-30 13:30                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 14:15                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-19  4:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-19  5:59                 ` Ross Green

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