From: Petko Manolov <petkan@mip-labs.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 12/12] IMA: Use the the system trusted keyrings instead of .ima_mok [ver #2]
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:37:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160308163758.GA4934@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3362.1457453220@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On 16-03-08 16:07:00, David Howells wrote:
> Petko Manolov <petkan@mip-labs.com> wrote:
>
> > > How about I change it to a choice-type item, with the following options:
> > >
> > > (1) No addition.
> > >
> > > (2) Addition restricted by built-in keyring.
> > >
> > > (3) Addition restricted by secondary keyring + built-in keyring.
> > >
> > > where the second and third options then depend on the appropriate keyrings
> > > being enabled.
> >
> > I would suggest leaving (1) and (3). Since secondary keyring only accepts
> > keys signed by certificate in the system keyring I think (2) is redundant.
> > It adds extra complexity (Kconfig is vague enough already) while it doesn't
> > increase the overall security by much.
>
> If I remove option (2), that would mean that if you want to allow keys to be
> added to .ima if they're signed by the built-in keyring, then you also allow
> keys to be added to .ima if they're signed by the secondary keyring if
> enabled.
Exactly. The primary difference between the built-in and secondary keyring is
that the latter is R/W. Chances are the user want either no addition or need
dynamic key add/remove.
I don't have strong opinions against (2). This is more of a discussion whether
we should sacrifice in favor of simplicity or flexibility.
> Remember - these keyrings aren't necessarily restricted to IMA.
I am well aware of that. At some point (perhaps not now) i'd like to discuss
allowing kernel module loading based on keys in the secondary keyring. It is a
niche feature for those machines that have uptime measured in years. I
certainly don't expect it to be something the regular desktop or embedded users
need.
Another issue that we left unresolved is the system-wide blacklist keyring. It
is at the same hierarchy level as the secondary keyring and serves a similar
purpose although in opposite direction.
Petko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-08 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-04 15:00 [RFC PATCH 00/12] KEYS: Restrict additions to 'trusted' keyrings [ver #2] David Howells
2016-03-04 15:00 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] KEYS: Generalise system_verify_data() to provide access to internal content " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:00 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] PKCS#7: Make trust determination dependent on contents of trust keyring " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:00 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] KEYS: Add a facility to restrict new links into a " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:00 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] KEYS: Move x509_request_asymmetric_key() to asymmetric_type.c " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:00 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] KEYS: Generalise x509_request_asymmetric_key() " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] X.509: Use verify_signature() if we have a struct key * to use " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] X.509: Move the trust validation code out to its own file " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] KEYS: Make the system trusted keyring depend on the asymmetric key type " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] KEYS: Move the point of trust determination to __key_link() " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KEYS: Remove KEY_FLAG_TRUSTED and KEY_ALLOC_TRUSTED " David Howells
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] certs: Add a secondary system keyring that can be added to dynamically " David Howells
2016-03-08 2:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-08 13:13 ` David Howells
2016-03-08 14:06 ` Petko Manolov
2016-03-08 14:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-08 14:43 ` David Howells
2016-03-08 15:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-08 15:32 ` David Howells
2016-03-08 16:15 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-04 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] IMA: Use the the system trusted keyrings instead of .ima_mok " David Howells
2016-03-08 2:26 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-08 13:08 ` David Howells
2016-03-08 14:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-08 14:14 ` Petko Manolov
2016-03-08 14:38 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-03-08 14:44 ` David Howells
2016-03-08 15:48 ` Petko Manolov
2016-03-08 16:07 ` David Howells
2016-03-08 16:37 ` Petko Manolov [this message]
2016-03-08 22:05 ` Mimi Zohar
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