From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932585AbcCINI4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:08:56 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-f66.google.com ([74.125.82.66]:35506 "EHLO mail-wm0-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932568AbcCINIp (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Mar 2016 08:08:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 14:08:40 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" Cc: Borislav Petkov , Linus Torvalds , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andrew Morton , Michal Marek , =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= , Markus Trippelsdorf , Thomas Voegtle , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86-ml , Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner , Jiri Olsa , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Weisbecker Subject: Re: [RFC] CONFIG_FORCE_MINIMALLY_SANE_CONFIG=y (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/kconfig: Sanity-check config file during oldconfig) Message-ID: <20160309130839.GA7978@gmail.com> References: <20160108133725.GH14673@pd.tnic> <568FCC45.1010301@suse.cz> <20160111194311.GF4686@pd.tnic> <20160111205945.GH4686@pd.tnic> <20160111211712.GI4686@pd.tnic> <20160114184350.GB12109@pd.tnic> <20160119082022.GB18237@gmail.com> <20160121220621.GA18145@node.shutemov.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160121220621.GA18145@node.shutemov.name> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 09:20:22AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > + select SYSFS_DEPRECATED > ... > > > And yes, many of these options are members of the 'SystemD debuggability Hall Of > > Shame'... It cost me many, many days of painful config-bisection to figure the > > often obscure dependencies out, so we might as well upstream this information. > > And you've got it wrong ;) > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/README#n54 > > udev will fail to work with the legacy sysfs layout: > CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=n That's with new systemd. The Fedora 19 system I tested it on certainly failed in the way I documented it. So we now have a kernel option that breaks older SystemD if unset, and breaks newer SystemD if set. Bravo! Thanks, Ingo