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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Gregory Farnum <greg@gregs42.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	shane.seymour@hpe.com, Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] block: create ioctl to discard-or-zeroout a range of blocks
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:08:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160309230819.GB3949@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC6JEv-HeAoRxSmVghGvbX7G92yH00k-5F-48qEW13vAB1Q99g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 02:20:31PM -0800, Gregory Farnum wrote:
> I really am sensitive to the security concerns, just know that if it's
> a permanent blocker you're essentially blocking out a growing category
> of disk users (who run on an awfully large number of disks!).

Or they just have to use kernels with out-of-tree patches installed.  :-P

If you want to consider how many disks Google has that are using this
patch, I probably could have appealed to Linus and asked him to accept
the patch if I forced the issue.  The only reason why I didn't was
that people like Ric Wheeler threatened to have distro-specific
patches to disable the feature, and at the end of the day, I didn't
care that much.  After all, if it makes it harder for large scale
cloud companies besides Google to create more efficient userspace
cluster file systems, it's not like I was keeping the patch a secret.

So ultimately, if the Ceph developers want to make a case to Red Hat
management that this is important, great.  If not, it's not that hard
for those people who need the patch and who are running large cloud
infrastructures to simply apply the out-of-tree patch if they need it.

Cheers,

   	     	     	 	      		  - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-09 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02  4:09 [PATCH v5.1 0/2] create BLKZEROOUT ioctl that invalidates page cache Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02  4:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] block: invalidate the page cache when issuing BLKZEROOUT Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02  9:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-02  4:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: create ioctl to discard-or-zeroout a range of blocks Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02  9:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-02 18:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-02 22:56     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02 23:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-03 17:02         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-03 17:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-03 18:00             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-03 18:14             ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-03 18:21             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-03 18:01         ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-03 18:09           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-03 18:12             ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-03 18:54             ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-03 22:39               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-03 23:10                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-04  0:20                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-09 22:20                   ` Gregory Farnum
2016-03-09 23:08                     ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2016-03-10 14:58                       ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-10 18:33                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-10 21:47                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-11  4:42                           ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-11 13:59                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-11 15:27                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-11 17:23                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-11 17:30                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 18:25                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-11 22:30                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-12  0:33                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-12  0:35                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-12  0:44                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-12  7:19                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-12 10:11                                             ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2016-03-13 23:30                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-14 10:34                                             ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-14 14:46                                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-15 20:14                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-15 20:43                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-15 21:29                                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-15 22:33                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-15 22:52                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-16  1:51                                                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-16 21:45                                                           ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-17  0:15                                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-17  0:33                                                               ` Eric Sandeen
2016-03-17  0:59                                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-17  5:18                                                                 ` Gregory Farnum
2016-03-17 12:36                                                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-17 17:47                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-17 17:50                                                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-17 17:59                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-17 18:35                                                                     ` Chris Mason
2016-03-17 20:49                                                                       ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-17 21:00                                                                         ` Chris Mason
2016-03-18  3:20                                                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-18 15:15                                                                             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-03-18 20:05                                                                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-18  6:52                                                                     ` Gregory Farnum
2016-03-18  7:19                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-17  1:01                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-17  2:38                                                             ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-18 22:55                                                         ` NeilBrown
2016-03-15 23:06                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-15 23:14                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-16  0:08                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-15 23:52                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-16  0:06                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-16  0:30                                                             ` Eric Sandeen
2016-03-16  0:51                                                               ` Chris Mason
2016-03-16 22:23                                                                 ` Chris Mason
2016-03-17 13:49                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-15 22:38                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2016-03-03 22:56               ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-04  2:30                 ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2016-03-03 18:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-02  9:15 ` [PATCH v5.1 0/2] create BLKZEROOUT ioctl that invalidates page cache Arnd Bergmann
2016-03-02  9:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-02 10:55     ` Arnd Bergmann

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