From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.com, pmladek@suse.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:01:20 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160312050120.GA689@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160311172211.GD24046@htj.duckdns.org>
Hello Tejun,
On (03/11/16 12:22), Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:21:52PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > I'd personally prefer to go with the "less dependency" option -- a dedicated
> > kthread, I think. mostly for the sake of simplicity. I agree with the point
> > that console_unlock() has unpredictable execution time, and in general case
> > we would have a busy kworker (or sleeping in console_lock() or doing
> > cond_resched()) and an idle extra WQ_RESCUER kthread, with activation rules
> > that don't depend on printk. printk with dedicated printk-kthread seems
> > easier to control. how does it sound?
>
> I don't think it makes sense to avoid workqueue for execution latency.
> The only case which can matter is the rescuer case and as I wrote
> before the system is already in an extremely high latency mode by the
> time rescuer is needed, so it's unlikely to make noticeable
> differences.
>
> However, I agree that using kthread is a good idea here just to reduce
> the amount of dependency as prink working even during complex failures
> is important. workqueue itself is fairly complex and it also requires
> timer and task creation to work correctly for proper operation.
> That's a lot of extra dependency.
Thanks!
I agree that, in some cases (if not in most of them) the "value" of printk()
output is inversely proportional to the system health -- the worst the state,
the more attention people pay to printk() output; so a simpler solution here
gives more confidence.
-ss
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-12 5:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-05 10:55 [RFC][PATCH v2 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-05 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 6:32 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 7:18 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-06 9:35 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 11:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-06 13:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 14:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07 8:22 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 10:12 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 10:52 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 12:16 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 12:37 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07 15:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 15:49 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-08 10:21 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-11 17:22 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-12 5:01 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-03-09 6:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-10 9:27 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-10 15:48 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-10 9:53 ` Petr Mladek
2016-03-10 16:26 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 14:40 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 11:10 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07 14:36 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 15:42 ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-05 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/2] printk: Skip messages on oops Sergey Senozhatsky
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