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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Juri.Lelli@arm.com,
	steve.muckle@linaro.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette+renesas@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] cpufreq/schedutil: sum per-sched class utilization
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:38:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160316073850.GO6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160315220951.30639.12872@quark.deferred.io>

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 03:09:51PM -0700, Michael Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Peter Zijlstra (2016-03-15 14:29:26)
> > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:22:10PM -0700, Michael Turquette wrote:
> > 
> > > +static unsigned long sugov_sum_total_util(struct sugov_cpu *sg_cpu)
> > > +{
> > > +     enum sched_class_util sc;
> > > +
> > > +     /* sum the utilization of all sched classes */
> > > +     sg_cpu->total_util = 0;
> > > +     for (sc = 0; sc < nr_util_types; sc++)
> > > +             sg_cpu->total_util += sg_cpu->util[sc];
> > > +
> > > +     return sg_cpu->total_util;
> > > +}
> > 
> > > @@ -153,7 +172,7 @@ static unsigned int sugov_next_freq(struct sugov_policy *sg_policy,
> > >               if ((s64)delta_ns > NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ)
> > >                       continue;
> > >  
> > > -             j_util = j_sg_cpu->util;
> > > +             j_util = j_sg_cpu->total_util;
> > >               j_max = j_sg_cpu->max;
> > >               if (j_util > j_max)
> > >                       return max_f;
> > 
> > So while not strictly wrong, I think we can do so much better.
> > 
> > Changelog doesn't mention anything useful, like that this is indeed very
> > rough and what we really should be doing etc..
> 
> What should we really be doing? Summing the scheduler class
> contributions seems correct to me.
> 
> Are you referring to the fact that dl and rt are passing bogus values
> into cpufreq_update_util()? If so I'm happy to add a note about that in
> the changelog.

Somewhere in the giant discussions I mentioned that we should be looking
at a CPPC like interface and pass {min,max} tuples to the cpufreq
selection thingy.

In that same discussion I also mentioned that we must compute min as the
hard dl reservation, but that for max we can actually use the avg dl +
avg rt + avg cfs.

That way there is far more room for selecting a sensible frequency.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-16  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-14  5:22 [PATCH 0/8] schedutil enhancements Michael Turquette
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 1/8] sched/cpufreq: remove cpufreq_trigger_update() Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160315214545.30639.98727@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-15 21:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16  8:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched/fair: add margin to utilization update Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160315212848.30639.38747@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-15 21:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16  2:52   ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-16 22:12     ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched/cpufreq: new cfs capacity margin helpers Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 4/8] cpufreq/schedutil: sysfs capacity margin tunable Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160315214043.30639.75507@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-15 21:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20160315223701.30639.43127@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-16  3:36           ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-16  8:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 10:02               ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-16 17:55                 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-16 22:05                   ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-17  9:40                   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-17 13:55                     ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-17 15:53                       ` Patrick Bellasi
2016-03-17 17:54                         ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-17 18:56                           ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-17 22:34                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 12:45               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 22:03             ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched/cpufreq: pass sched class into cpufreq_update_util Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160315220609.30639.67271@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-16  3:55       ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-16  7:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16  8:29         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-16  8:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16  9:16             ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-16 12:39             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 13:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 13:23                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 13:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 6/8] cpufreq/schedutil: sum per-sched class utilization Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160315220951.30639.12872@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-16  7:38       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-03-16 18:20         ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-16 18:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 19:12             ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 7/8] cpufreq: Frequency invariant scheduler load-tracking support Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 19:13   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-15 20:19     ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 21:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 18:33       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-15 21:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-14  5:22 ` [PATCH 8/8] sched: prefer cpufreq_scale_freq_capacity Michael Turquette
2016-03-15 19:13   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-15 20:46     ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-16 19:44       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-16 20:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 21:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-15 21:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160315222721.30639.28332@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-16  7:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 12:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16  0:08 ` [PATCH 0/8] schedutil enhancements Rafael J. Wysocki

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