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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:28:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160321092848.GB504@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160321084743.GB2279@X58A-UD3R>

On (03/21/16 17:47), Byungchul Park wrote:
[..]
> > Is there any reason why you don't put the wake_up_process() out of the
> > critical section with my suggestion, even though it can solve the infinite
> > recuresion you worried about?
> 
> Just to be sure, whether you take my suggestion or not is not important.
> I just suggested it in this thread since it can solve what you worried
> about. That's all. I can post it in another thread though. Why don't you
> consider it so that yours don't miss any printk message? Do you think there
> are any problems in my suggestion?

we have 2 spin locks in vprintk_emit() -- logbuf_lock and sem->lock. and N
CPUs can concurrently lockup on those two locks, which already makes a
single static pointer in spiun_dump() questionable.

logbug_lock *theoretically* can detect and handle recursive printk()s,
there is no way to catch sem->lock spin_dump() at the moment (but that's
not the point).

there are 2 new spin locks in vprintk_emit() -- p->pi_lock and rq->lock.
what I want is to put those locks inside the "we can detect recursion 100%"
region. so these two locks will not add any new possibilities of recursive
printks, they are covered by the existing recursion detection code thanks
to logbuf lock and static logbuf_cpu. so we still can say that we have 5
places where printk recursion can happen

-- lock + unlock logbuf_lock
   printk() recursion detection code can't help here

-- inside of logbuf_lock critical section
   printk() recursion detection code works here

-- lock + unlock sem->lock
   printk() recursion detection code can't help here


note how "inside of logbuf_lock critical section" takes care of nested
'lock + unlock p->pi_lock' and 'lock + unlock rq->lock'.

moreover, printk() will switch to synchronous mode in recursion handler and
two misbehaving spin locks (4 places where recursion can happen) will not be
executed anymore.


what you want to have -- 4 independent spin locks and 9 places where
recursion can happen, only 1 of which is covered by printk recursion code.

-- lock + unlock logbuf_lock
   printk() recursion detection code can't help here

-- inside of logbuf_lock critical section
   printk() recursion detection code works here

-- lock + unlock p->pi_lock
   printk() recursion detection code can't help here

-- lock + unlock rq->lock
   printk() recursion detection code can't help here

-- lock + unlock sem->lock
   printk() recursion detection code can't help here

and there is a static pointer to fix everything up? what if 2
CPUs will simultaneously printk-recurse in 2 different places?
why this is better?

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-20 14:13 [RFC][PATCH v5 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-20 14:13 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-21  0:06   ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-21  0:43     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-21  0:56       ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-21  7:35         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-21  8:07           ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-21  8:47             ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-21  9:28               ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-03-21 14:32                 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-21 14:58                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-21 15:33                     ` Jan Kara
2016-03-21 17:11                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-22  2:18                         ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-22  2:13                 ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-22  5:52                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-22  6:57                     ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-22  7:43                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-21  8:51             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-20 14:13 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 2/2] printk: Make wake_up_klogd_work_func() async Sergey Senozhatsky

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