From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
"Jacob Pan" <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
"Ross Green" <rgkernel@gmail.com>,
"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Lai Jiangshan" <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Darren Hart" <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
"pranith kumar" <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:06:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160327210641.GB4287@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160327204559.GV6356@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 10:45:59PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:40:18AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Oh, and the patch I am running with is below. I am running x86, and so
> > some other architectures would of course need the corresponding patch
> > on that architecture.
>
> > -#define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG 21 /* idle is polling for TIF_NEED_RESCHED */
> > +/* #define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG 21 idle is polling for TIF_NEED_RESCHED */
>
> x86 is the only arch that really uses this heavily IIRC.
>
> Most of the other archs need interrupts to wake up remote cores.
>
> So what we try to do is avoid sending IPIs when the CPU is idle, for the
> remote wakeup case we use set_nr_if_polling() which sets
> TIF_NEED_RESCHED if TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG was set. If it wasn't, we'll send
> the IPI. Otherwise we rely on the idle loop to do sched_ttwu_pending()
> when it breaks out of loop due to TIF_NEED_RESCHED.
>
> But, you need hotplug for this to happen, right?
I do, but Ross Green is seeing something that looks similar, and without
CPU hotplug.
> We should not be migrating towards, or waking on, CPUs no longer present
> in cpu_active_map, and there is a rcu/sched_sync() after clearing that
> bit. Furthermore, migration_call() does a sched_ttwu_pending() (waking
> any remaining stragglers) before we migrate all runnable tasks off the
> dying CPU.
OK, so I should instrument migration_call() if I get the repro rate up?
> The other interesting case would be resched_cpu(), which uses
> set_nr_and_not_polling() to kick a remote cpu to call schedule(). It
> atomically sets TIF_NEED_RESCHED and returns if TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG was
> not set. If indeed not, it will send an IPI.
>
> This assumes the idle 'exit' path will do the same as the IPI does; and
> if you look at cpu_idle_loop() it does indeed do both
> preempt_fold_need_resched() and sched_ttwu_pending().
>
> Note that one cannot rely on irq_enter()/irq_exit() being called for the
> scheduler IPI.
OK, thank you for the info! Any specific debug actions?
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-27 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-09 10:11 rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17 Ross Green
2016-02-17 5:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 19:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-17 20:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 23:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-18 11:51 ` Ross Green
2016-02-18 23:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-02-19 3:56 ` Ross Green
2016-02-19 4:13 ` John Stultz
2016-02-19 17:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-20 4:34 ` Ross Green
2016-02-20 6:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-21 5:04 ` Ross Green
2016-02-21 18:15 ` Ross Green
2016-02-23 20:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-02-23 20:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-23 21:28 ` Ross Green
2016-02-25 5:13 ` Ross Green
2016-02-26 0:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-26 1:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-04 5:30 ` Ross Green
2016-03-04 15:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-18 21:00 ` Josh Triplett
2016-03-18 23:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-21 16:22 ` Jacob Pan
2016-03-21 17:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-22 16:35 ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-22 17:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-22 21:04 ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-22 21:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-23 17:15 ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-23 18:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-23 18:25 ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-23 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-25 21:24 ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-25 21:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 12:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-26 15:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 18:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 22:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 1:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 13:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 15:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:06 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-03-28 6:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29 0:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29 13:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-31 15:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-04-03 8:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-06 6:25 ` Ross Green
2016-05-07 15:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-10 2:36 ` Ross Green
2016-06-30 17:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 1:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 2:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 6:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 14:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 20:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 6:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 15:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 15:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 16:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 16:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 12:58 ` Boqun Feng
2016-03-30 13:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 14:15 ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-19 4:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-19 5:59 ` Ross Green
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