From: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
To: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
<linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
<linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] scsi: remove orphaned modular code from non-modular drivers
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:10:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160328151014.GR16831@windriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1459143107.13004.21.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[Re: [PATCH 0/2] scsi: remove orphaned modular code from non-modular drivers] On 27/03/2016 (Sun 22:31) James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-03-27 at 13:00 -0400, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> > In the ongoing audit/cleanup of non-modular code needlessly using
> > modular infrastructure, the SCSI subsystem fortunately only contains
> > two instances that I detected. Both are for legacy drivers that
> > predate the git epoch, so cleary there is no demand for converting
> > these drivers to be tristate.
> >
> > For anyone new to the underlying goal of this cleanup, we are trying
> > to not use module support for code that isn't buildable as a module
> > since:
> >
> > (1) it is easy to accidentally write unused module_exit and remove
> > code
> > (2) it can be misleading when reading the source, thinking it can be
> > modular when the Makefile and/or Kconfig prohibit it
> > (3) it requires the include of the module.h header file which in
> > turn
> > includes nearly everything else, thus adding to CPP overhead.
> > (4) it gets copied/replicated into other code and spreads like
> > weeds.
>
> I don't really buy any of these as being credible issues for the
> ancient drivers, so there doesn't appear to be an real benefit to this
> conversion; however, besides the danger of touching old stuff, there
> are some down sides:
Thanks James for your review and always interesting/alternative
viewpoints. You seem pretty clear in your conviction here, so I won't
bother making counter points ; best we just agree to disagree, and I
won't bother you with these patches again.
Paul.
--
>
> > -MODULE_DESCRIPTION("Sun3x ESP SCSI driver");
> > -MODULE_AUTHOR("Thomas Bogendoerfer (tsbogend@alpha.franken.de)");
> > -MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
> > -MODULE_VERSION(DRV_VERSION);
>
> These tags are usefully greppable for drivers, regardless of whether
> they generate actual kernel side information.
>
> > We explicitly disallow a driver unbind, since that doesn't have a
> > sensible use case anyway, and it allows us to drop the ".remove"
> > code for non-modular drivers.
>
> That's bogus. I use bind and unbind a lot for testing built in drivers
> but the usual user use case is for resetting the devices.
>
> > Build tested for mips (jazz) and m68k (sun3x) on 4.6-rc1 to ensure no
> > silly typos crept in.
>
> For trivial changes, build testing is not really sufficient: a
> significant fraction of them break something that isn't spotted by the
> reviewers. For the older drivers, this isn't discovered for months to
> years and then someone has to go digging back through all the so called
> trivial changes to find which one it was.
>
> James
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-28 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-27 17:00 [PATCH 0/2] scsi: remove orphaned modular code from non-modular drivers Paul Gortmaker
2016-03-27 17:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] drivers/scsi: make jazz_esp.c driver explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2016-03-27 17:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] drivers/scsi: make sun3x_esp.c " Paul Gortmaker
2016-03-28 5:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] scsi: remove orphaned modular code from non-modular drivers James Bottomley
2016-03-28 15:10 ` Paul Gortmaker [this message]
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