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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] nohz: Convert tick dependency mask to atomic_t
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:44:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160329094454.GA4715@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160325131732.GA16488@lerouge>


* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 09:48:47AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > As per Linus suggestion, lets convert the tick dependency mask to
> > > atomic_t. Introduce atomic_fetch_or() and confine fetch_or() back to
> > > scheduler guts.
> > > 
> > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/frederic/linux-dynticks.git
> > > 	timers/nohz
> > > 
> > > HEAD: 7b7e5da5733f58668181077ec394a718e08c392c
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 	Frederic
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > Frederic Weisbecker (3):
> > >       atomic: Introduce atomic_fetch_or
> > >       nohz: Convert tick dependency mask to atomic_t
> > >       Revert "atomic: Export fetch_or()"
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  include/linux/atomic.h   | 34 +++++++++++++--------------
> > >  include/linux/sched.h    |  4 ++--
> > >  kernel/sched/core.c      | 18 ++++++++++++++
> > >  kernel/time/tick-sched.c | 61 ++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------
> > >  kernel/time/tick-sched.h |  2 +-
> > >  5 files changed, 68 insertions(+), 51 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Could you please also convert the sched/core.c usage, so that we can get rid of 
> > the private fetch_or() definition? Please also double check that it does not 
> > result in worse code generation.
> 
> That involve converting thread_info::flags to atomic_t and given how much the type varies
> across architectures:

Ah, yes - I did a similar analysis originally and then promptly forgot about it!

Harmonizing thread_info::flags does not look easy, given how much assembly code 
accesses this field.

So I suspect your original series of introducing the atomic_t interface while 
reverting back to the scheduler-specific auto-typing hack is fine after all.

> also given how much it is accessed (and that happens a lot in ASM as well). This 
> conversion deserves quite a whole project on its own.
> 
> It might be possible to do it incrementally though.

So I don't even know where to begin with that:

 - some 64-bit architectures want 32-bit flags
 - some 64-bit architectures want 64-bit flags
 - some 64-bit architectures may genuinely want more than 32 flags
 - some 64-bit architectures may want 64-bit word just because it's the fastest

... there's not a single natural data type on the C side that I can see this could 
be converted to :-/

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-29  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-24 14:37 [PATCH 0/3] nohz: Convert tick dependency mask to atomic_t Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-24 14:37 ` [PATCH 1/3] atomic: Introduce atomic_fetch_or Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-29 10:36   ` [tip:core/urgent] locking/atomic: Introduce atomic_fetch_or() tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-24 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] nohz: Convert tick dependency mask to atomic_t Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-25  8:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-25 14:56     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-29 10:37   ` [tip:core/urgent] timers/nohz: " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-24 14:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] Revert "atomic: Export fetch_or()" Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-29 10:37   ` [tip:core/urgent] locking/atomic, sched: Unexport fetch_or() tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-25  8:48 ` [PATCH 0/3] nohz: Convert tick dependency mask to atomic_t Ingo Molnar
2016-03-25 13:17   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-29  9:44     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-03-29 12:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-29 12:59         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-29 13:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-29 13:08             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-03-31  6:54               ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-31  9:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-31 13:18                   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-29 13:14             ` Ingo Molnar

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