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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] sched/completion: convert completions to use simple wait queues
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:21:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160330152155.GZ3408@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56FBEE09.9080607@linutronix.de>

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:17:29PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 03/30/2016 05:07 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 04:53:05PM +0200, Daniel Wagner wrote:
> >> From: Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de>
> >>
> >> Completions have no long lasting callbacks and therefore do not need
> >> the complex waitqueue variant.  Use simple waitqueues which reduces
> >> the contention on the waitqueue lock.
> > 
> > Changelog really should have talk about the determinism thing. The last
> > time you posted this the point was raised that we should wake the
> > highest prio waiter in the defer case, you did not address this.
> 
> So we really want to go this road? 

Dunno, but at least mention why it wouldn't matter.

> I didn't find any numbers what the
> highest count of queued sleepers was in Daniel's complete_all() testing.
> 
> As for the latest -RT I received only one report from Clark Williams
> with something like 3 to 9 sleepers waked up during one complete_all()
> and this happens in the resume code.
> Based on this, deferring wake-ups from IRQ-context and a RB-tree (or
> something like that for priority sorting) looks like a lot of complexity
> and it does not look like we gain much.

Sure, but that equally puts the whole defer thing into question, if we
can put a hard cap on the max number (and WARN when exceeded) we're also
good.

> > Also, you make no mention of the reduction of UINT_MAX to USHORT_MAX and
> > the implications of that.
> 
> Wasn't this
> |To avoid a size increase of struct completion, I spitted the done
> |field into two half.
> 
> later he mentions that we can't have 2M sleepers anymore.

That wasn't in this changelog, therefore it wasn't read ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-30 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-30 14:53 [RFC v1] Use swait in completion Daniel Wagner
2016-03-30 14:53 ` [RFC v1] sched/completion: convert completions to use simple wait queues Daniel Wagner
2016-03-30 15:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-30 15:17     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-03-30 15:21       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-03-30 15:29         ` Daniel Wagner

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