From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
Wade Mealing <wmealing@redhat.com>,
linux-usb <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bjorn@mork.no
Subject: Re: [RFC] Create an audit record of USB specific details
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:18:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405221805.GB11038@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2074584.b2h7oKljRp@x2>
On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 03:38:34PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 05, 2016 07:02:48 PM Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 18:40 +1000, Wade Mealing wrote:
> > > Consider the following scenario. Currently we have device drivers
> > > that emit text via a printk request which is eventually picked up by
> > > syslog like implementation (not the audit subsystem).
> >
> > We also have UEVENTs. The crucial question is why udevd feeding
> > back events to the audit subsystem is inferior to the kernel
> > itself generating audit events.
>
> If this was going to be done in user space, then we are talking about auditd
> growing the ability to monitor another netlink socket for events. The question
> that decides if this is feasible is whether or not UEVENTS are protected from
> loss if several occur in a short time before auditd can get around to reading
> them.
udevd should queue up your events that you subscribe to just fine. Test
it out if you want to, it should be pretty easy.
> The other issue that I'm curious about is if adding hardware can fail.
Sure it can, plug in a "broken" USB device and watch it not enumerate
properly :)
> Do the events coming out by UEVENTS have any sense of pass or fail? Or
> are they all implicitly successful?
They only happen when a device is successfully added to the kernel.
> And then we get to the issue of whether or not UEVENTS can be filtered. If so,
> then we will also need to add auditing around the configuration of the filters
> to see if anything is impacting the audit trail.
You can filter in userspace, that's what udevd provides for you today.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-05 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-04 4:02 [RFC] Create an audit record of USB specific details wmealing
2016-04-04 6:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-04-04 7:47 ` Bjørn Mork
2016-04-05 8:40 ` Wade Mealing
2016-04-05 11:49 ` EXT :Re: " Boyce, Kevin P (AS)
2016-04-05 13:46 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 13:52 ` Boyce, Kevin P (AS)
2016-04-05 15:35 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 14:40 ` Alan Stern
2016-04-05 22:17 ` Wade Mealing
2016-04-05 17:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-04-05 19:38 ` Steve Grubb
2016-04-05 22:18 ` Greg KH [this message]
2016-04-04 12:56 ` Greg KH
2016-04-04 21:33 ` Steve Grubb
2016-04-04 21:48 ` Greg KH
2016-04-04 21:53 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 13:07 ` Burn Alting
2016-04-05 13:44 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 14:08 ` Burn Alting
2016-04-05 14:20 ` EXT :Re: " Boyce, Kevin P (AS)
2016-04-05 14:37 ` Burn Alting
2016-04-05 14:42 ` Boyce, Kevin P (AS)
2016-04-05 22:39 ` Burn Alting
2016-04-04 21:37 ` Paul Moore
2016-04-04 21:50 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 2:54 ` Paul Moore
2016-04-05 3:39 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 14:50 ` Paul Moore
2016-04-04 21:37 ` Steve Grubb
2016-04-04 21:54 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <CALJHwhR-SA7K=fD=DUXE7EFq+4gWKPaY+B5z6jdCj7180wg_vg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-04-05 1:54 ` Wade Mealing
2016-04-05 2:43 ` Greg KH
2016-04-05 2:47 ` Greg KH
2016-04-04 22:10 ` Burn Alting
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