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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
To: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/27] block: bio: introduce 4 helpers for cleanup
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:46:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160406014636.GB32713@kmo-pixel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVN78cA3Lk4H6xgEVQCguqdn3HPpOAtsPHMqXpD9KDHCCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 09:34:34AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Kent Overstreet
> <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 07:56:46PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >> Some drivers access bio->bi_vcnt and bio->bi_io_vec directly,
> >> firstly it isn't a good practice, secondly it may cause trouble
> >> for converting to multipage bvecs.
> >
> > "not good practice" is OO bullshit snake oil without more justification. We
> > don't plaster accessors everywhere without an actual reason.
> >
> > How would it cause trouble with multipage bvecs?
> 
> Simply speaking, the current drivers may depend on .bi_vcnt for
> computing how many page there are in one bio. After multipage bvecs,
> it is not true any more. Isn't it a actual reason?

But it's completely valid to use bi_vcnt for segments, which is what it's always
_really_ meant anyways.

Sometimes you have cases where the meaning of a member changes significantly
enough that you really don't want code using it accidentally anymore - like with
Jens' patches that changed how bi_remaining and bi_cnt work, but after those
patches it really wasn't correct to use those members directly anymore so he
renamed them to prevent that.

I don't buy that that's the case for multipage bvecs - the meaning of bi_vcnt
itself isn't changing (it's just the number of entries in the array!) and it'll
still be possible for code to correctly use it directly.

Same with bio->bi_io_vec, it's still an array of biovecs, that's not changing.
Your helpers are at the wrong level of abstraction.

Also, there isn't a huge number of bi_vcnt references in the kernel anyways -
the immutable biovec work required removing most of them.

Instead of adding these low level accessors, it'd be better to convert code to
higher level helpers (especially bio_add_page()) where applicable.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-06  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-05 11:56 [PATCH 00/27] block: cleanup direct access on .bi_vcnt & .bi_io_vec Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 01/27] block: bio: introduce 4 helpers for cleanup Ming Lei
2016-04-06  0:18   ` Kent Overstreet
2016-04-06  1:34     ` Ming Lei
2016-04-06  1:46       ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2016-04-06  2:11         ` Ming Lei
2016-04-06  2:21           ` Kent Overstreet
2016-04-06  4:11             ` Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 02/27] block: drbd: use bio_get_base_vec() to retrieve the 1st bvec Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 03/27] block: drbd: remove impossible failure handling Ming Lei
2016-04-05 12:42   ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 04/27] block: loop: use bio_get_base_vec() to retrive bvec table Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 05/27] block: pktcdvd: " Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 06/27] block: floppy: use bio_set_vec_table() Ming Lei
2016-04-05 13:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 07/27] block: floppy: use bio_add_page() Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 08/27] staging: lustre: avoid to use bio->bi_vcnt directly Ming Lei
2016-04-05 12:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-04-05 13:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-10 14:37     ` James Simmons
2016-04-10 14:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-10 16:02         ` James Simmons
2016-04-11  3:30           ` Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 09/27] target: use bio_is_full() Ming Lei
2016-04-05 13:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-07  4:07     ` Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 10/27] bcache: debug: avoid to access .bi_io_vec directly Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 11/27] bcache: io.c: use bio_set_vec_table Ming Lei
2016-04-05 12:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-05 15:24     ` Ming Lei
2016-04-05 17:31       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-06  0:35     ` Kent Overstreet
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 12/27] bcache: journal.c: use bio_set_vec_table() Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 13/27] bcache: movinggc: " Ming Lei
2016-04-05 11:56 ` [PATCH 14/27] bcache: writeback: " Ming Lei

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