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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:19:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160413101950.GC9482@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKtXndmfLNt1PZvL1oE5BXHDHsAcGBy=0V-nHg=6CA8HA@mail.gmail.com>


* Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:

> FWIW, I've also had this tree up in my git branches, and the 0day
> tester hasn't complained at all about it in the last two weeks. I'd
> really like to see this in -next to fix the >4G (mainly kexec) issues
> and get us to feature parity with the arm64 kASLR work (randomized
> virtual address).

So I started applying the patches, started fixing up changelogs and gave up on 
patch #3.

Changelogs of such non-trivial code need to be proper English and need to be 
understandable.

For example patch #3 starts with:

> Current z_extract_offset is calculated in boot/compressed/mkpiggy.c. The problem 
> is in mkpiggy.c we don't know the detail of decompressor. Then we just get a 
> rough z_extract_offset according to extra_bytes. As we know extra_bytes can only 
> promise a safety margin when decompressing. In fact this brings some risks:

Beyond the bad grammar of the _first word_ of the changelog, this is not a proper 
high level description of the change. A _real_ high level description would be 
something like:

  > Currently z_extract_offset is calculated during kernel build time. The problem 
  > with that method is that at this stage we don't yet know the decompression 
  > buffer sizes - we only know that during bootup.
  >
  > Effects of this are that when we calculate z_extract_offset during the build 
  > we don't know the precise decompression details, we'll only get a rough 
  > estimation of z_extract_offset.
  >
  > Instead of that we want to calculate it during bootup.
  
etc. etc. - the whole series is _full_ of such crappy changelogs that make it 
difficult for me and others to see whether the author actually _understands_ the 
existing code or is hacking away on it. It's also much harder to review and 
validate.

This is totally unacceptable.

Please make sure every changelog starts with a proper high level description that 
tells the story and convinces the reader about what the problem is and what the 
change should be.

And part of that are the patch titles. Things like:

Subject: [PATCH v3 03/19] x86, boot: Move z_extract_offset calculation to header.S

are absolutely mindless titles. A better title would be:

      x86/boot: Calculate precise decompressor parameters during bootup, not build time

... or something like that. Even having read the changelog 3 times I'm unsure what 
the change really is about.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-13 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-22  7:31 [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] x86, kaslr: Remove not needed parameter for choose_kernel_location Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] x86, kaslr: Fix a bug that relocation can not be handled when kernel is loaded above 2G Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] x86, boot: Move compressed kernel to end of buffer before decompressing Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] x86, boot: Move z_extract_offset calculation to header.S Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] x86, kaskr: Update the description for decompressor worst case Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] x86, boot: Fix run_size calculation Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:51   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] x86, kaslr: Clean up useless code related to run_size Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] x86, kaslr: Get correct max_addr for relocs pointer Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] x86, kaslr: Consolidate mem_avoid array filling Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] x86, boot: Split kernel_ident_mapping_init to another file Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] x86, 64bit: Set ident_mapping for kaslr Baoquan He
2016-04-13 10:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] x86, boot: Add checking for memcpy Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] x86, kaslr: Introduce struct slot_area to manage randomization slot info Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] x86, kaslr: Add two functions which will be used later Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] x86, kaslr: Introduce fetch_random_virt_offset to randomize the kernel text mapping address Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] x86, kaslr: Randomize physical and virtual address of kernel separately Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] x86, kaslr: Add support of kernel physical address randomization above 4G Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] x86, kaslr: Remove useless codes Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] x86, kaslr: Allow random address to be below loaded address Baoquan He
2016-03-22 19:54   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-23  1:41     ` Baoquan He
2016-03-23  8:59   ` [PATCH v5 " Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] x86, kaslr: Use KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE as the offset max for kernel virtual randomization Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:46   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22 20:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support Kees Cook
2016-03-23 22:40   ` Kees Cook
2016-04-05  1:56 ` Baoquan He
2016-04-05 20:00   ` Kees Cook
2016-04-13 10:19     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-04-13 14:11       ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14  6:02         ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14  6:24           ` Baoquan He
2016-04-14 15:06           ` Baoquan He
2016-04-14 17:56             ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15  4:08               ` Baoquan He
2016-04-15  4:52                 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15  6:55                   ` Ingo Molnar

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