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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 23:06:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160414150641.GA2599@x1.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJFcT9CgKvJSJ9rDOz4D8fJRhDbxBGwOpQhUA2OyYPAzg@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/13/16 at 11:02pm, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> * Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> FWIW, I've also had this tree up in my git branches, and the 0day
> >>> tester hasn't complained at all about it in the last two weeks. I'd
> >>> really like to see this in -next to fix the >4G (mainly kexec) issues
> >>> and get us to feature parity with the arm64 kASLR work (randomized
> >>> virtual address).
> 
> So, I've done this and suddenly realized I hadn't boot-tested i386. It
> doesn't work, unfortunately. (Which I find strange: I'd expect 0day to
> have noticed...)
> 
> Baoquan, have you tested this on 32-bit systems? I get a variety of
> failures. Either it boots okay, it reboots, or I get tons of pte
> errors like this:

Hi Kees,

I am sorry I didn't notice the change impacts i386. I got a i386 machine
and had tests. Found i386 can't take separate randomzation since there's
difference between i386 and x86_64. 

x86_64 has phys_base and can translate virt addr and phys addr according
to below formula:

paddr = vaddr - __START_KERNEL_map + phys_base;

However i386 can only do like this:

paddr = vaddr - PAGE_OFFSET;

Besides i386 has to reserve 128M for VMALLOC at the end of kernel
virtual address. So for i386 area 768M is the upper limit for
randomization. But I am fine with the KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE, the old default
value. What do you say about this?

So the plan should be keeping the old style of randomization for i386
system:

1) Disable virtual address randomization in i386 case because it's
useless. This should be done in patch:
 x86, KASLR: Randomize virtual address separately

2) Add an upper limit for physical randomization if it's i386 system.
 x86, KASLR: Add physical address randomization >4G

I just got a test machine in office, and haven't had time to change
code. You can change it directly, or I will do it tomorrow.

Thanks

> 
> [    0.000000] clearing pte for ram above max_low_pfn: pfn: 37dcc pmd:
> f9144f7c pmd phys: 39144f7c pte: f9a1b730 pte phys: 39a1b730
> 
> Can you confirm? I suspect relocation problems, but ran out of time
> today to debug it.
> 
> I have the entire series with cleaned up changelogs and various other
> refactorings up here now:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git/log/?h=kaslr/highmem
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Kees
> 
> -- 
> Kees Cook
> Chrome OS & Brillo Security

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-22  7:31 [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] x86, kaslr: Remove not needed parameter for choose_kernel_location Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] x86, kaslr: Fix a bug that relocation can not be handled when kernel is loaded above 2G Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] x86, boot: Move compressed kernel to end of buffer before decompressing Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] x86, boot: Move z_extract_offset calculation to header.S Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] x86, kaskr: Update the description for decompressor worst case Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] x86, boot: Fix run_size calculation Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:51   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] x86, kaslr: Clean up useless code related to run_size Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] x86, kaslr: Get correct max_addr for relocs pointer Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] x86, kaslr: Consolidate mem_avoid array filling Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] x86, boot: Split kernel_ident_mapping_init to another file Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] x86, 64bit: Set ident_mapping for kaslr Baoquan He
2016-04-13 10:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] x86, boot: Add checking for memcpy Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] x86, kaslr: Introduce struct slot_area to manage randomization slot info Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] x86, kaslr: Add two functions which will be used later Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] x86, kaslr: Introduce fetch_random_virt_offset to randomize the kernel text mapping address Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] x86, kaslr: Randomize physical and virtual address of kernel separately Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] x86, kaslr: Add support of kernel physical address randomization above 4G Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] x86, kaslr: Remove useless codes Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] x86, kaslr: Allow random address to be below loaded address Baoquan He
2016-03-22 19:54   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-23  1:41     ` Baoquan He
2016-03-23  8:59   ` [PATCH v5 " Baoquan He
2016-03-22  7:32 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] x86, kaslr: Use KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE as the offset max for kernel virtual randomization Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:46   ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22 20:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support Kees Cook
2016-03-23 22:40   ` Kees Cook
2016-04-05  1:56 ` Baoquan He
2016-04-05 20:00   ` Kees Cook
2016-04-13 10:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 14:11       ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14  6:02         ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14  6:24           ` Baoquan He
2016-04-14 15:06           ` Baoquan He [this message]
2016-04-14 17:56             ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15  4:08               ` Baoquan He
2016-04-15  4:52                 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15  6:55                   ` Ingo Molnar

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