From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 23:06:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160414150641.GA2599@x1.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJFcT9CgKvJSJ9rDOz4D8fJRhDbxBGwOpQhUA2OyYPAzg@mail.gmail.com>
On 04/13/16 at 11:02pm, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> * Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> FWIW, I've also had this tree up in my git branches, and the 0day
> >>> tester hasn't complained at all about it in the last two weeks. I'd
> >>> really like to see this in -next to fix the >4G (mainly kexec) issues
> >>> and get us to feature parity with the arm64 kASLR work (randomized
> >>> virtual address).
>
> So, I've done this and suddenly realized I hadn't boot-tested i386. It
> doesn't work, unfortunately. (Which I find strange: I'd expect 0day to
> have noticed...)
>
> Baoquan, have you tested this on 32-bit systems? I get a variety of
> failures. Either it boots okay, it reboots, or I get tons of pte
> errors like this:
Hi Kees,
I am sorry I didn't notice the change impacts i386. I got a i386 machine
and had tests. Found i386 can't take separate randomzation since there's
difference between i386 and x86_64.
x86_64 has phys_base and can translate virt addr and phys addr according
to below formula:
paddr = vaddr - __START_KERNEL_map + phys_base;
However i386 can only do like this:
paddr = vaddr - PAGE_OFFSET;
Besides i386 has to reserve 128M for VMALLOC at the end of kernel
virtual address. So for i386 area 768M is the upper limit for
randomization. But I am fine with the KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE, the old default
value. What do you say about this?
So the plan should be keeping the old style of randomization for i386
system:
1) Disable virtual address randomization in i386 case because it's
useless. This should be done in patch:
x86, KASLR: Randomize virtual address separately
2) Add an upper limit for physical randomization if it's i386 system.
x86, KASLR: Add physical address randomization >4G
I just got a test machine in office, and haven't had time to change
code. You can change it directly, or I will do it tomorrow.
Thanks
>
> [ 0.000000] clearing pte for ram above max_low_pfn: pfn: 37dcc pmd:
> f9144f7c pmd phys: 39144f7c pte: f9a1b730 pte phys: 39a1b730
>
> Can you confirm? I suspect relocation problems, but ran out of time
> today to debug it.
>
> I have the entire series with cleaned up changelogs and various other
> refactorings up here now:
>
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git/log/?h=kaslr/highmem
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Kees
>
> --
> Kees Cook
> Chrome OS & Brillo Security
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-14 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-22 7:31 [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:31 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] x86, kaslr: Remove not needed parameter for choose_kernel_location Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:31 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] x86, kaslr: Fix a bug that relocation can not be handled when kernel is loaded above 2G Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] x86, boot: Move compressed kernel to end of buffer before decompressing Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] x86, boot: Move z_extract_offset calculation to header.S Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] x86, kaskr: Update the description for decompressor worst case Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] x86, boot: Fix run_size calculation Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:51 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] x86, kaslr: Clean up useless code related to run_size Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:52 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] x86, kaslr: Get correct max_addr for relocs pointer Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:52 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] x86, kaslr: Consolidate mem_avoid array filling Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] x86, boot: Split kernel_ident_mapping_init to another file Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] x86, 64bit: Set ident_mapping for kaslr Baoquan He
2016-04-13 10:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] x86, boot: Add checking for memcpy Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] x86, kaslr: Introduce struct slot_area to manage randomization slot info Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] x86, kaslr: Add two functions which will be used later Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] x86, kaslr: Introduce fetch_random_virt_offset to randomize the kernel text mapping address Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] x86, kaslr: Randomize physical and virtual address of kernel separately Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] x86, kaslr: Add support of kernel physical address randomization above 4G Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] x86, kaslr: Remove useless codes Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] x86, kaslr: Allow random address to be below loaded address Baoquan He
2016-03-22 19:54 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-23 1:41 ` Baoquan He
2016-03-23 8:59 ` [PATCH v5 " Baoquan He
2016-03-22 7:32 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] x86, kaslr: Use KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE as the offset max for kernel virtual randomization Baoquan He
2016-03-22 20:46 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-22 20:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/20] x86, boot: kaslr cleanup and 64bit kaslr support Kees Cook
2016-03-23 22:40 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-05 1:56 ` Baoquan He
2016-04-05 20:00 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-13 10:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 14:11 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14 6:02 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-14 6:24 ` Baoquan He
2016-04-14 15:06 ` Baoquan He [this message]
2016-04-14 17:56 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15 4:08 ` Baoquan He
2016-04-15 4:52 ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15 6:55 ` Ingo Molnar
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