From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask.
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:09:25 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160418010925.GA7800@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57142C80.6070005@zytor.com>
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 05:38:24PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 04/13/16 19:13, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> >
> > One other reason to suggest using a /proc file is that you're not at
> > the mercy of the glibc folks to wire up a new system call. (Glibc has
> > been refusing to wire up getrandom(2), for example. Grrrr.....)
> >
>
> This brings right back up the libinux idea. There are continued
> concerns about type compatibility, but saying "oh, use syscall(3)
> instead" has worse properties than a Linux-kernel-team maintained
> libinux. Last I heard the glibc team had (reluctantly?) agreed to do
> something to deal with linux-specific system calls, but last I heard
> nothing had happened. The last discussion I see on the glibc mailing
> list dates back to November, and that thread seems to have died from
> bikeshedding, again.
>
> There aren't a *lot* of such system calls, but even in that thread the
> "oh, only two applications need this, let them use syscall(3)" seems to
> remain.
And only 2 applications will continue to use it because no one wants to
write syscall() wrappers for their individual applications, so it's a
vicious cycle :(
I really like the 'libinux' idea, did anyone every hack up a first-pass
at this? And I'm guessing we have more syscalls now that would need to
be added (like getrandom(), but that shouldn't be too difficult.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-18 1:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-13 12:57 [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 13:20 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2016-04-13 13:57 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 14:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-13 15:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-13 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86: Wire up new getumask system call on x86 Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask Greg KH
2016-04-14 3:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-04-14 19:26 ` Greg KH
2016-04-13 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-13 21:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-14 2:13 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-18 0:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 1:09 ` Greg KH [this message]
2016-04-18 2:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 2:12 ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18 2:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 2:37 ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18 3:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 11:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-14 17:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-13 15:41 ` Colin Walters
2016-04-13 16:03 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18 1:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 1:57 ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18 9:14 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18 10:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
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