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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	dledford@redhat.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 11:38:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160419173817.GF20844@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160418182411.GA4904@infradead.org>

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:24:11AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:40:47AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > I wasn't arguing this should integrate into verbs in some way, only
> > that the way to access the driver-specific uAPI of a RDMA device should
> > be through the RDMA common uAPI and not through a random char dev.
> 
> Well, it's stuff not related to our RDMA userspace API (which _is_
> Verbs, not counting for the complete crackpot abuse in usnic), but
> very device specific. 

It is weakly related, it uses the same device discovery and security
model.

> The stuff the intel driver are doing isn't pretty, but unfortunately
> not unusual either - lots of SCSI or network driver have ioctls
> like that.  Now we could argue if the ioctls should be one the
> main node (uverbs) or the a driver private chardev, or not exist
> at all and people will have to patch the driver with some vendor
> version if they really need it.  Examples for either of these
> choices exist in the tree.

Right - and the RDMA uAPI has always had an integrated driver-bypass
channel as part of the verb uAPI calls, extending that to allow for
new-driver-specific calls seems very natural.

Jason

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-19 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 15:41 [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] IB/hfi1: Export drivers user sw version via sysfs Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] IB/hfi1: Remove unused user command Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] IB/hfi1: Add ioctl() interface for user commands Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write(), use ioctl() for user cmds Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] IB/hfi1: Add trace message in user IOCTL handling Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] IB/hfi1: Consolidate IOCTL defines Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] IB/hfi1: Move eprom to its own device Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 16:45 ` [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 17:48   ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-14 18:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 18:42       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 18:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-15  4:01     ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 16:17       ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-15 17:30         ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-15 17:44             ` Woodruff, Robert J
2016-04-15 21:03               ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:46             ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-15 21:23             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 23:28               ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-16  6:09                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 15:29                   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-15 23:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-16  6:00                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 19:19                   ` Al Viro
2016-04-18 12:00                     ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 17:52   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-20 20:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-22 18:38       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-26 15:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-18 13:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-18 17:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-18 18:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19  3:45         ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-19 18:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19 17:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]

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