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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:34:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160427172630-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160427142331.GH17926@8bytes.org>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 04:23:32PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 04:37:04PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > One correction: it's a feature of the device in the system.
> > There could be a mix of devices bypassing and not
> > bypassing the IOMMU.
> 
> No, it really is not. A device can't chose to bypass the IOMMU. But the
> IOMMU can chose to let the device bypass.

QEMU can choose to bypass IOMMU for one device and not the other.
IOMMU in QEMU isn't involved when it's bypassed.

> So any fix here belongs
> into the platform/iommu code too and not into some driver.

Fine but this is beside the point. Almost all virtio devices
bypass IOMMU and what this patch does is create a way
to detect devices that don't. This code can maybe go into
platform.

> > Sounds good. And a way to detect appropriate devices could
> > be by looking at the feature flag, perhaps?
> 
> Again, no! The way to detect that is to look into the iommu description
> structures provided by the firmware. They provide everything necessary
> to tell the iommu code which devices are not translated.
> 
> 
> 
> 	Joerg

It would be easy if they did but they don't do this on all systems.
In particular the idea for firmware interface was clearly
that a given bus either is connected through IOMMU or bypassing it.
Whether virtio bypasses the iommu is unrelated to the bus it's on.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-27 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-21 13:43 [PATCH V2 RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-21 13:54 ` Wei Liu
2016-04-27 12:18   ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-27 13:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 14:23       ` Joerg Roedel
2016-04-27 14:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-27 14:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 14:43             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-27 14:54               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 14:58                 ` Joerg Roedel
2016-04-27 15:09                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 15:10                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-27 14:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-04-27 14:56           ` Joerg Roedel
2016-04-27 15:05             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 15:15               ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-27 18:17                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 19:16                   ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-28 14:34                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-28 15:11                       ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-28 15:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-28 15:48                           ` David Woodhouse
2016-05-01 10:37                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-09 11:09                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-21 14:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-04-21 15:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-22  9:33     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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