From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754696AbcEBRYQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 May 2016 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:47242 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754672AbcEBRYH (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 May 2016 13:24:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:22:11 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" Cc: Jerome Glisse , Hugh Dickins , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Andrea Arcangeli , Alex Williamson , kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "linux-mm@kvack.org" Subject: Re: GUP guarantees wrt to userspace mappings redesign Message-ID: <20160502162211.GA11678@redhat.com> References: <20160428232127.GL11700@redhat.com> <20160429005106.GB2847@node.shutemov.name> <20160428204542.5f2053f7@ul30vt.home> <20160429070611.GA4990@node.shutemov.name> <20160429163444.GM11700@redhat.com> <20160502104119.GA23305@node.shutemov.name> <20160502111513.GA4079@gmail.com> <20160502121402.GB23305@node.shutemov.name> <20160502141538.GA5961@redhat.com> <20160502162128.GF24419@node.shutemov.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160502162128.GF24419@node.shutemov.name> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 05/02, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 04:15:38PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > > > > > > - I don't see any check page_count() around __replace_page() in uprobes, > > > so it can easily replace pinned page. > > > > Why it should? even if it races with get_user_pages_fast()... this doesn't > > differ from the case when an application writes to MAP_PRIVATE non-anonymous > > region, no? > > < I know nothing about uprobes or ptrace in general > > > I think the difference is that the write is initiated by the process > itself, but IIUC __replace_page() can be initiated by other process, so > it's out of control of the application. Yes. Just like gdb can insert a breakpoint into the read-only executable vma. > So we have pages pinned by a driver and the driver expects the pinned > pages to be mapped into userspace, then __replace_page() kicks in and put > different page there -- driver's expectation is broken. Yes... but I don't understand the problem space. I mean, I do not know why this driver should expect this, how it can be broken, etc. I do not even understand why "initiated by other process" can make any difference... Unless this driver somehow controls all threads which could have this page mapped. Oleg.