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From: tytso@mit.edu
To: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	andi@firstfloor.org, Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
	cryptography@lakedaemon.net, jsd@av8n.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 17:49:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160504174901.GC3901@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH8yC8kEWaH7FM03LRxMk555784Cw-b816=O50WqXWW-0Nep5Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 10:40:20AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > +static inline u32 rotl32(u32 v, u8 n)
> > +{
> > +       return (v << n) | (v >> (sizeof(v) * 8 - n));
> > +}
> 
> That's undefined behavior when n=0.

Sure, but it's never called with n = 0; I've double checked and the
compiler seems to do the right thing with the above pattern as well.

Hmm, it looks like there is a "standard" version rotate left and right
defined in include/linux/bitops.h.  So I suspect it would make sense
to use rol32 as defined in bitops.h --- and this is probably something
that we should do for the rest of crypto/*.c, where people seem to be
defininig their own version of something like rotl32 (I copied the
contents of crypto/chacha20_generic.c to lib/chacha20, so this pattern
of defining one's own version of rol32 isn't new).

> I think the portable way to do a rotate that avoids UB is the
> following. GCC, Clang and ICC recognize the pattern, and emit a rotate
> instruction.
> 
>     static const unsigned int MASK=31;
>     return (v<<n)|(v>>(-n&MASK));
> 
> You should also avoid the following because its not constant time due
> to the branch:
> 
>     return n == 0 ? v : (v << n) | (v >> (sizeof(v) * 8 - n));
> 

Where is this coming from?  I don't see this construct in the patch.

      	      	     	      	    - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-04 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02  6:26 [RFC PATCH 0/3] random: replace urandom pool with a CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02  6:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-03  8:50   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-04 16:54     ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-04 17:30     ` tytso
2016-05-04 17:52       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-03  9:36   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-04  6:24     ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-04 14:40   ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-04 17:49     ` tytso [this message]
2016-05-04 18:22       ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-04 18:29         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 19:07           ` tytso
2016-05-04 20:53             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 21:42             ` John Denker
2016-05-04 21:52               ` better patch for linux/bitops.h John Denker
2016-05-05  1:35                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05  2:41                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05  2:54                     ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05  3:08                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05  3:30                         ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05  3:50                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-05  4:03                             ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05  6:35                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 16:15                                 ` UB in general ... and linux/bitops.h in particular John Denker
2016-05-05 17:32                                   ` Andi Kleen
2016-05-06  2:25                                   ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 21:34                             ` better patch for linux/bitops.h Sandy Harris
2016-05-05 22:18                               ` tytso
2016-05-05 22:22                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 22:38                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-06  0:13                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 21:56               ` [PATCH 1/3] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 22:06                 ` linux/bitops.h John Denker
2016-05-04 23:06                   ` linux/bitops.h Andi Kleen
2016-05-05  0:13                     ` linux/bitops.h John Denker
2016-05-05  1:20                     ` linux/bitops.h Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05  1:27                       ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05  0:30                   ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05  0:48                     ` linux/bitops.h Linus Torvalds
2016-05-06 20:08                       ` linux/bitops.h Sasha Levin
2016-05-06 20:07                     ` linux/bitops.h Sasha Levin
2016-05-06 20:25                       ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-06 20:30                       ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-02  6:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] random: make /dev/urandom scalable for silly userspace programs Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02  7:00   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-02 12:50     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 13:48       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 13:53         ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-02  6:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] random: add interrupt callback to VMBus IRQ handler Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02  9:00   ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-02  9:14     ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-02 12:56       ` Theodore Ts'o

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