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* ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user()
@ 2016-05-04 19:17 Bjorn Helgaas
  2016-05-04 19:34 ` Steven Rostedt
  2016-05-06 10:16 ` Pekka Paalanen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2016-05-04 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, Pekka Paalanen; +Cc: linux-kernel, Yinghai Lu

138295373ccf ("ftrace: mmiotrace update, #2") added this use of
pci_resource_to_user():

  +static int mmio_print_pcidev(struct trace_seq *s, const struct pci_dev *dev)
  +{
  ...
  +       /*
  +        * XXX: is pci_resource_to_user() appropriate, since we are
  +        * supposed to interpret the __ioremap() phys_addr argument based on
  +        * these printed values?
  +        */
  +       for (i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
  +               pci_resource_to_user(dev, i, &dev->resource[i], &start, &end);
  +               ret += trace_seq_printf(s, " %llx",
  +                       (unsigned long long)(start |
  +                       (dev->resource[i].flags & PCI_REGION_FLAG_MASK)));
  +       }

I think it was a mistake to use pci_resource_to_user() here because it
adds unnecessary arch dependencies in whatever consumes this output.

On most arches, pci_resource_to_user() is a no-op and the result is
normal resource addresses, i.e., CPU physical addresses that match
things in /proc/iomem and /sys/devices/pci.../resource.

On microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc, the result of
pci_resource_to_user() is something else, usually a PCI bus address (a
raw BAR value).  These values are only useful for using mmap on
files like /proc/bus/pci/....

I don't know what, if anything, consumes this output.  If things parse
it, we shouldn't break them.  But those things likely would need
special cases for microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc.

If it's only for human consumption, I think we should consider
removing the use of pci_resource_to_user() and printing
dev->resource[i].start instead.

Bjorn

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* Re: ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user()
  2016-05-04 19:17 ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user() Bjorn Helgaas
@ 2016-05-04 19:34 ` Steven Rostedt
  2016-05-06 10:16 ` Pekka Paalanen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2016-05-04 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjorn Helgaas; +Cc: Ingo Molnar, Pekka Paalanen, linux-kernel, Yinghai Lu

On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:17:13 -0500
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:

> 138295373ccf ("ftrace: mmiotrace update, #2") added this use of
> pci_resource_to_user():
> 
>   +static int mmio_print_pcidev(struct trace_seq *s, const struct pci_dev *dev)
>   +{
>   ...
>   +       /*
>   +        * XXX: is pci_resource_to_user() appropriate, since we are
>   +        * supposed to interpret the __ioremap() phys_addr argument based on
>   +        * these printed values?
>   +        */
>   +       for (i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
>   +               pci_resource_to_user(dev, i, &dev->resource[i], &start, &end);
>   +               ret += trace_seq_printf(s, " %llx",
>   +                       (unsigned long long)(start |
>   +                       (dev->resource[i].flags & PCI_REGION_FLAG_MASK)));
>   +       }
> 
> I think it was a mistake to use pci_resource_to_user() here because it
> adds unnecessary arch dependencies in whatever consumes this output.
> 
> On most arches, pci_resource_to_user() is a no-op and the result is
> normal resource addresses, i.e., CPU physical addresses that match
> things in /proc/iomem and /sys/devices/pci.../resource.
> 
> On microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc, the result of
> pci_resource_to_user() is something else, usually a PCI bus address (a
> raw BAR value).  These values are only useful for using mmap on
> files like /proc/bus/pci/....
> 
> I don't know what, if anything, consumes this output.  If things parse
> it, we shouldn't break them.  But those things likely would need
> special cases for microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc.
> 
> If it's only for human consumption, I think we should consider
> removing the use of pci_resource_to_user() and printing
> dev->resource[i].start instead.

Currently this code requires the arch to define HAVE_MMIOTRACE_SUPPORT,
and so far as I can tell, only x86 does this.

-- Steve

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* Re: ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user()
  2016-05-04 19:17 ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user() Bjorn Helgaas
  2016-05-04 19:34 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2016-05-06 10:16 ` Pekka Paalanen
  2016-05-06 10:33   ` karol herbst
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Pekka Paalanen @ 2016-05-06 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjorn Helgaas
  Cc: Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel, Yinghai Lu,
	karolherbst, Ben Skeggs, koriakin

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On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:17:13 -0500
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:

> 138295373ccf ("ftrace: mmiotrace update, #2") added this use of
> pci_resource_to_user():
> 
>   +static int mmio_print_pcidev(struct trace_seq *s, const struct pci_dev *dev)
>   +{
>   ...
>   +       /*
>   +        * XXX: is pci_resource_to_user() appropriate, since we are
>   +        * supposed to interpret the __ioremap() phys_addr argument based on
>   +        * these printed values?
>   +        */
>   +       for (i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
>   +               pci_resource_to_user(dev, i, &dev->resource[i], &start, &end);
>   +               ret += trace_seq_printf(s, " %llx",
>   +                       (unsigned long long)(start |
>   +                       (dev->resource[i].flags & PCI_REGION_FLAG_MASK)));
>   +       }
> 
> I think it was a mistake to use pci_resource_to_user() here because it
> adds unnecessary arch dependencies in whatever consumes this output.
> 
> On most arches, pci_resource_to_user() is a no-op and the result is
> normal resource addresses, i.e., CPU physical addresses that match
> things in /proc/iomem and /sys/devices/pci.../resource.
> 
> On microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc, the result of
> pci_resource_to_user() is something else, usually a PCI bus address (a
> raw BAR value).  These values are only useful for using mmap on
> files like /proc/bus/pci/....
> 
> I don't know what, if anything, consumes this output.  If things parse
> it, we shouldn't break them.  But those things likely would need
> special cases for microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc.
> 
> If it's only for human consumption, I think we should consider
> removing the use of pci_resource_to_user() and printing
> dev->resource[i].start instead.

Hi,

the code in question prints the "PCIDEV" lines in the mmiotrace output.
IIRC, it was initially meant to replicate the contents
of /proc/bus/pci/devices. I do not know it any tools rely on it, I
suppose they might, for mapping MAPs to device and BAR.

I am adding to CC some people that actually work with mmiotrace for
Nouveau. It is used for seeing what the NVIDIA proprieratry driver
does, so if there is no NVIDIA driver for the arch, they probably don't
care. I am not sure if other driver projects use it too, IIRC I heard
something about some wireless drivers in the past.


Thanks,
pq

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* Re: ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user()
  2016-05-06 10:16 ` Pekka Paalanen
@ 2016-05-06 10:33   ` karol herbst
  2016-05-11 19:04     ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: karol herbst @ 2016-05-06 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pekka Paalanen
  Cc: Bjorn Helgaas, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel,
	Yinghai Lu, Ben Skeggs, koriakin

2016-05-06 12:16 GMT+02:00 Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:17:13 -0500
> Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> 138295373ccf ("ftrace: mmiotrace update, #2") added this use of
>> pci_resource_to_user():
>>
>>   +static int mmio_print_pcidev(struct trace_seq *s, const struct pci_dev *dev)
>>   +{
>>   ...
>>   +       /*
>>   +        * XXX: is pci_resource_to_user() appropriate, since we are
>>   +        * supposed to interpret the __ioremap() phys_addr argument based on
>>   +        * these printed values?
>>   +        */
>>   +       for (i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
>>   +               pci_resource_to_user(dev, i, &dev->resource[i], &start, &end);
>>   +               ret += trace_seq_printf(s, " %llx",
>>   +                       (unsigned long long)(start |
>>   +                       (dev->resource[i].flags & PCI_REGION_FLAG_MASK)));
>>   +       }
>>
>> I think it was a mistake to use pci_resource_to_user() here because it
>> adds unnecessary arch dependencies in whatever consumes this output.
>>
>> On most arches, pci_resource_to_user() is a no-op and the result is
>> normal resource addresses, i.e., CPU physical addresses that match
>> things in /proc/iomem and /sys/devices/pci.../resource.
>>
>> On microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc, the result of
>> pci_resource_to_user() is something else, usually a PCI bus address (a
>> raw BAR value).  These values are only useful for using mmap on
>> files like /proc/bus/pci/....
>>
>> I don't know what, if anything, consumes this output.  If things parse
>> it, we shouldn't break them.  But those things likely would need
>> special cases for microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc.
>>
>> If it's only for human consumption, I think we should consider
>> removing the use of pci_resource_to_user() and printing
>> dev->resource[i].start instead.
>
> Hi,
>
> the code in question prints the "PCIDEV" lines in the mmiotrace output.
> IIRC, it was initially meant to replicate the contents
> of /proc/bus/pci/devices. I do not know it any tools rely on it, I
> suppose they might, for mapping MAPs to device and BAR.
>
> I am adding to CC some people that actually work with mmiotrace for
> Nouveau. It is used for seeing what the NVIDIA proprieratry driver
> does, so if there is no NVIDIA driver for the arch, they probably don't
> care. I am not sure if other driver projects use it too, IIRC I heard
> something about some wireless drivers in the past.
>
>
> Thanks,
> pq

Hi,

thanks for adding us here.

The code in question with which we parse the MMiotraces is demmio:
https://github.com/envytools/envytools/blob/master/rnn/demmio.c

I never really looked into, though, so it could be partly wrong what I say here.

In line 261 to 282 is the PCIDEV parsing section.
And this is used to get the relative address from the start of the BAR
regions, so that demmio can look addresses up in rnndb (database of
the mmio registers of Nvidia GPUs)
and prints out which value is written/read at which time and what that
value means for the hardware.

And because that tools is kind of important for us to properly RE what
the nvidia does with the hardware, we really want to be carefull
changing anything here.

Thanks,

Karol

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* Re: ftrace use of pci_resource_to_user()
  2016-05-06 10:33   ` karol herbst
@ 2016-05-11 19:04     ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2016-05-11 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: karol herbst
  Cc: Pekka Paalanen, Bjorn Helgaas, Steven Rostedt, Ingo Molnar,
	linux-kernel, Yinghai Lu, Ben Skeggs, koriakin

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 5:33 AM, karol herbst <karolherbst@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2016-05-06 12:16 GMT+02:00 Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:17:13 -0500
>> Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> 138295373ccf ("ftrace: mmiotrace update, #2") added this use of
>>> pci_resource_to_user():
>>>
>>>   +static int mmio_print_pcidev(struct trace_seq *s, const struct pci_dev *dev)
>>>   +{
>>>   ...
>>>   +       /*
>>>   +        * XXX: is pci_resource_to_user() appropriate, since we are
>>>   +        * supposed to interpret the __ioremap() phys_addr argument based on
>>>   +        * these printed values?
>>>   +        */
>>>   +       for (i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
>>>   +               pci_resource_to_user(dev, i, &dev->resource[i], &start, &end);
>>>   +               ret += trace_seq_printf(s, " %llx",
>>>   +                       (unsigned long long)(start |
>>>   +                       (dev->resource[i].flags & PCI_REGION_FLAG_MASK)));
>>>   +       }
>>>
>>> I think it was a mistake to use pci_resource_to_user() here because it
>>> adds unnecessary arch dependencies in whatever consumes this output.
>>>
>>> On most arches, pci_resource_to_user() is a no-op and the result is
>>> normal resource addresses, i.e., CPU physical addresses that match
>>> things in /proc/iomem and /sys/devices/pci.../resource.
>>>
>>> On microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc, the result of
>>> pci_resource_to_user() is something else, usually a PCI bus address (a
>>> raw BAR value).  These values are only useful for using mmap on
>>> files like /proc/bus/pci/....
>>>
>>> I don't know what, if anything, consumes this output.  If things parse
>>> it, we shouldn't break them.  But those things likely would need
>>> special cases for microblaze, mips, powerpc, and sparc.
>>>
>>> If it's only for human consumption, I think we should consider
>>> removing the use of pci_resource_to_user() and printing
>>> dev->resource[i].start instead.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the code in question prints the "PCIDEV" lines in the mmiotrace output.
>> IIRC, it was initially meant to replicate the contents
>> of /proc/bus/pci/devices. I do not know it any tools rely on it, I
>> suppose they might, for mapping MAPs to device and BAR.
>>
>> I am adding to CC some people that actually work with mmiotrace for
>> Nouveau. It is used for seeing what the NVIDIA proprieratry driver
>> does, so if there is no NVIDIA driver for the arch, they probably don't
>> care. I am not sure if other driver projects use it too, IIRC I heard
>> something about some wireless drivers in the past.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> pq
>
> Hi,
>
> thanks for adding us here.
>
> The code in question with which we parse the MMiotraces is demmio:
> https://github.com/envytools/envytools/blob/master/rnn/demmio.c
>
> I never really looked into, though, so it could be partly wrong what I say here.
>
> In line 261 to 282 is the PCIDEV parsing section.
> And this is used to get the relative address from the start of the BAR
> regions, so that demmio can look addresses up in rnndb (database of
> the mmio registers of Nvidia GPUs)
> and prints out which value is written/read at which time and what that
> value means for the hardware.
>
> And because that tools is kind of important for us to properly RE what
> the nvidia does with the hardware, we really want to be carefull
> changing anything here.

Sorry, for some reason I missed these responses until now.

As far as I can tell, Steve is right, and this code is only compiled
for x86, where pci_resource_to_user() does nothing, so removing it
should have no user-visible effect.

I'll post a patch to do that and cc: you.

Bjorn

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