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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk-manpages <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] simplified security.nscapability xattr
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:48:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160516214804.GA5926@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160516211523.GA5282@mail.hallyn.com>

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 04:15:23PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serge@hallyn.com):
> ...
> > There's a problem though.  The above suffices to prevent an unprivileged user
> > in a user_ns from unsharing a user_ns to write a file capability and exploit
> > that capability in the ns where he is unprivileged.  With one exception, which
> > is the case where the unprivileged user is mapped to the same kuid which
> > created the namespace.  So if uid 1000 on the host creates a namespace
> > where uid 1000 maps to 1000 in the namespace, then 1000 in the namespace
> > can create a new user_ns, write the xattr, and exploit it from the
> > parent namespace.  This is not an uncommon case.  I'm not sure what to do about
> > it.
> 
> Ok I think I've convinced myself that requiring a kuid 0 in the container
> and storing that in the security.nscapability is best solution.  The DAC
> objection is imo not really valid - we don't have to give uid 0 in the
> container any special privilege, we just require that the ns have a uid 0
> mapping.  I have not been able to think of any other reliable way to verify
> that the writer of the capability is authorized to grant privilege to the
> file when executed by current.
> 
> I'm going to proceed with another POC based on the following design:
> 
> 1. no new syscalls at the moment.  You can choose to set/query
> security.nscapability, but can also just set security.capability from
> a user_ns and have the kernel transparently set a security.nscapability
> entry for you.
> 
> 2. For now just a single security.nscapability entry, but in a format
> that turning it into an array will be a trivial change
> 
> 3. When running file foo which has a security.nscapability for kuid 100000,
> then any namespace where kuid 100000 is root - or which has an ancestor ns where
> that is the case - will run the file with the listed capabilities.
> 
> 4. When doing getxattr of security.capability from a user_ns, if there is a
> security.capability entry, that will be returned;  else if there is a valid
> security.nscapability for your ns, that will be returned.
> 
> 5. when doing a setxattr of security.capability from a user_ns, if there is
> a security.nscapability entry, you get EBUSY;  else a security.nscapability 
> with your root kuid will be written provided that (a) you are privileged
> over your namespace, (b) you are privileged over your root uid, (c) the
> file owner maps into your namespace.

Stéphane pointed out this isn't quite right.  The EBUSY will happen if
a security.nscapability is defined with a kuid over which the writer is
not privileged - else it will overwrite.  It will also happen if
security.capbility is set.

> 6. when doing a getxattr of security.nscapability, the entry will be shown
> with kuid mapped into your namespace or -1 if the uid does not map into
> your ns.
> 
> 7. when doing a setxattr of security.nscapability, if an entry exists, you
> get -EBUSY;  if you are not privileged over your ns, your root uid, and
> the file owner, then you get -EPERM;  the xattr includes a uid field, which
> must be either 0 or a value valid in your ns.  The value will be converted
> to a kuid and stored on disk.  (Seth, I'm not sure offhand how that should
> mesh with your patches, we can talk about it after I send the next patch,
> which I'm quite certain will handle it wrongly)
> 
> 8. If a security.capability exists, it will override any security.nscapability
> at execve() (so, inverse of my previous two patches).
> 
> -serge

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-16 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-22 17:26 namespaced file capabilities serge.hallyn
2016-04-22 17:26 ` [PATCH 1/1] simplified security.nscapability xattr serge.hallyn
2016-04-26 19:46   ` Seth Forshee
2016-04-26 21:59   ` Kees Cook
2016-04-26 22:26     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-04-26 22:39       ` Kees Cook
2016-04-27  4:39         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-04-27  8:09         ` Jann Horn
2016-05-02  3:54         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-02 18:31           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-05-02 21:31           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <CALQRfL7mfpyudWs4Z8W5Zi8CTG-9O0OvrCnRU7pk0MXtsLBd0A@mail.gmail.com>
2016-05-03  4:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-10 19:00                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-03  5:19               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-03  5:54                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-03 14:25                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-10 19:03                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-07 23:10                   ` Jann Horn
2016-05-11 21:02                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-16 21:15                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-16 21:48                         ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2016-05-18 21:57                           ` [PATCH RFC] user-namespaced file capabilities - now with more magic Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-19 20:53                             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-05-20  3:40                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-20 11:19                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-05-20 18:28                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-20 19:09                                     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-05-20 19:11                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-20 19:26                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-20 19:42                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-05-20 19:59                                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-05-20 23:23                                           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-05-20 23:32                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn

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