From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: George Spelvin <linux@sciencehorizons.net>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, edumazet@google.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, richardcochran@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [patch 13/20] timer: Switch to a non cascading wheel
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:20:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160614102022.GE30909@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160614081602.10755.qmail@ns.sciencehorizons.net>
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:16:02AM -0400, George Spelvin wrote:
> While I like the cleanup of just limiting long-term resolution, if
> it turns out to be necessary, it's not too hard to add exact timers
> back in if a need is found in future. All you need is a second
> __internal_add_timer function that rounds down rather than up, and to
> teach expire_timers() to cascade in the unlikely situation that a timer
> does have an expiry time in the future.
That did occur to me as well; however I think it would be best to
eradicate all forms of cascading entirely -- if at all possible.
If not; then I agree, that would clean things up.
> Wouldn't this all be so much simpler as
>
> #define LVL_BITS 6 /* Renamed previous LVL_SHIFT */
> #define LVL_SIZE (1 << LVL_BITS)
> #define LVL_MASK (LVL_BITS - 1)
> #define LVL_OFFS(n) ((n) * LVL_SIZE)
> #define LVL_SHIFT(n) ((n) * LVL_CLK_SHIFT)
> #define LVL_GRAN(n) (1 << LVL_SHIFT(n))
>
> Then you could do
> +static inline unsigned calc_index(unsigned expires, unsigned level),
> +{
> + /* Round up to next bin bin */
> + expires = ((expires - 1) >> LVL_SHIFT(level)) + 1;
> + return LVL_OFFS(level) + (expires & LVL_MASK);
> +}
I like.
> to be replaced with __builtin_clz or similar:
Problem is for the archs that don't have that, the 5 layer branch is
trivial for all arches, while software clz/fls is far more expensive.
> > + timer = hlist_entry(head->first, struct timer_list, entry);
> > + fn = timer->function;
> > + data = timer->data;
> > +
> > + timer_stats_account_timer(timer);
> > +
> > + base->running_timer = timer;
> > + detach_expired_timer(timer);
>
> Is there some non-obvious reason that you have to fetch fn and data
> so early? It seems like a register pressure pessimization, if the
> compiler can't figure out that timer_stats code can't change them.
>
> The cache line containing this timer was already prefetched when you
> updated its entry.pprev as part of removing the previous entry from
> the list.
>
> I see why you want to fetch them with the lock held in case there's some
> freaky race, but I'd do it all after detach_timer().
Good point, ideally the compiler can move those loads around inside the
lock, but its unlikely to be _that_ clever. We could indeed lower those
loads manually to just before the unlock.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-14 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-14 8:16 [patch 13/20] timer: Switch to a non cascading wheel George Spelvin
2016-06-14 8:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-14 10:15 ` George Spelvin
2016-06-14 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-06-14 12:58 ` George Spelvin
2016-06-14 16:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-14 19:56 ` George Spelvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-13 8:40 [patch 00/20] timer: Refactor the timer wheel Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-13 8:41 ` [patch 13/20] timer: Switch to a non cascading wheel Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-13 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-13 12:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-13 12:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-13 14:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-14 10:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-06-14 16:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-14 17:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-14 18:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-14 20:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 21:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-15 14:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-15 14:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-15 16:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-16 15:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-16 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-16 18:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-17 0:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-17 4:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-16 16:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-16 16:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-15 15:05 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-13 14:36 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 14:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
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