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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: "Wangnan (F)" <wangnan0@huawei.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pi3orama@163.com,
	lizefan@huawei.com, He Kuang <hekuang@huawei.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Nilay Vaish <nilayvaish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/8] perf evlist: Introduce aux evlist
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:46:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160708144654.GA31763@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577CF6B4.6060303@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 08:16:52PM +0800, Wangnan (F) wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2016/7/6 19:36, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 06:20:03AM +0000, Wang Nan wrote:
> > 
> > SNIP
> > 
> > > +struct perf_evlist *perf_evlist__new_aux(struct perf_evlist *parent)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct perf_evlist *evlist;
> > > +
> > > +	if (perf_evlist__is_aux(parent)) {
> > > +		pr_err("Internal error: create aux evlist from another aux evlist\n");
> > > +		return NULL;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	evlist = zalloc(sizeof(*evlist));
> > > +	if (!evlist)
> > > +		return NULL;
> > > +
> > > +	perf_evlist__init(evlist, parent->cpus, parent->threads);
> > > +	evlist->parent = parent;
> > > +	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&evlist->list);
> > > +	list_add(&evlist->list, &parent->children);
> > I understand there's some reason for separating maps with and
> > without overwrite set, but I'm missing it.. why is that?
> 
> You are asking overwrite, not write_backward?
> 
> Overwrite mapping needs to be mapped without PROT_WRITE, so its
> control page is also read only, so perf_evlist__mmap_consume() is
> not able to use, and there's no way to tell kernel to where we have
> read. Kernel overwrite old records when its full. Compare with normal
> mapping: perf uses perf_evlist__mmap_consume() to tell kernel the
> last byte it has read, so kernel stop writing data to it when it full,
> and issues LOST event. This is the reason we need to separate maps
> with and without overwrite set.
> 
> For write backward: kernel write data in different direction, so
> requires map separation.

I dont like the idea of duplicating whole perf_evlist
in order just to map some events with overwrite/backward

perf_evlist carries all the other info about events,
not just memory maping..

I think it'd be better to do it some other way, like:

  - we have mmaps for events/evsels, so you're able to map
    it differently with or without PROT_WRITE even in current
    design.. there's struct perf_mmap that can carry that info
    then it's the matter of reading/processing those maps
    that needs to change.. new perf_evlist interface

  - we could keep separate struct perf_mmap arrays for forward
    and backward/overwrite maps

  - ...

I understand both mapping need different treatment,
but I think that should be encapsulated within the
struct perf_evlist interface 

thanks,
jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-08 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-04  6:20 [PATCH v13 0/8] perf tools: Support overwritable ring buffer Wang Nan
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 1/8] perf tools: Drop redundant evsel->overwrite indicator Wang Nan
2016-07-06 10:53   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-07-06 10:55     ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 2/8] perf evlist: Introduce aux evlist Wang Nan
2016-07-06 11:36   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-07-06 12:16     ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-08 14:46       ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2016-07-11 10:20         ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 3/8] perf tests: Add testcase for auxiliary evlist Wang Nan
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 4/8] perf record: Introduce rec->overwrite_evlist for overwritable events Wang Nan
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 5/8] perf record: Read from overwritable ring buffer Wang Nan
2016-07-06 11:37   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-07-06 11:38   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-07-06 12:03     ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-06 12:34       ` Jiri Olsa
2016-07-07  4:59         ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 6/8] perf tools: Enable overwrite settings Wang Nan
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 7/8] perf tools: Don't warn about out of order event if write_backward is used Wang Nan
2016-07-04  6:20 ` [PATCH v13 8/8] perf tools: Add --tail-synthesize option Wang Nan

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