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From: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
To: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: "Pan, Miaoqing" <miaoqing@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Ted Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Sepehrdad, Pouyan" <pouyans@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	"herbert@gondor.apana.org.au" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	ath9k-devel <ath9k-devel@qca.qualcomm.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RANDOM: ATH9K RNG delivers zero bits of entropy
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:04:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160808220452.GA2013@io.lakedaemon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160808172930.GD4511@io.lakedaemon.net>

Hi Stephan,

On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 05:29:30PM +0000, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 08:41:36AM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
...
> > If you think that this patch is a challenge because your driver starts to 
> > spin, please help and offer another solution.
> 
> Well, I don't buy the reasoning listed above for not using the hwrng
> framework.  Interrupt timings were never designed to be a source of entropy
> either.  We need to grab it where ever we can find it, especially on
> embedded systems.  Documentation/hw_random.txt even says:
> 
> """
> This data is NOT CHECKED by any fitness tests, and could potentially be
> bogus (if the hardware is faulty or has been tampered with).
> """
> 
> I really don't think there's a problem with adding these sorts of
> sources under char/hw_random/.  I think the only thing we would be
> concerned about, other than the already addressed entropy estimation,
> would be constraining the data rate.

Further research yields char/hw_random/timeriomem-rng.c

It could use an update to ->read() vice data_{present,read}(), but it's
functionally exactly what the ath9k rng is doing. :)

thx,

Jason.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-08 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-05 15:08 [RFC][PATCH] RANDOM: ATH9K RNG delivers zero bits of entropy Stephan Mueller
2016-08-06 19:45 ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-06 20:03   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-06 20:16     ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-07  9:36 ` [PATCH v2] " Stephan Mueller
2016-08-08  2:03   ` Pan, Miaoqing
2016-08-08  6:41     ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-08 17:29       ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-08 22:04         ` Jason Cooper [this message]
2016-08-09  6:30         ` Pan, Miaoqing
2016-08-09 11:56           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-09 14:04             ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-10 23:44               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-14 18:11                 ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-15 11:01     ` Kalle Valo
2016-09-27 14:44   ` [v2] " Kalle Valo
2016-09-27 15:17     ` Stephan Mueller

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