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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/10] Optimize sched avgs computation and implement flat util hierarchy
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:13:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160823141341.GP10153@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtAMWbx6m2X8k_px+TK7OGAqgzD+0ShwfNb02xP1O8wg0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 03:28:19PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> I still wonder if using a flat util hierarchy is the right solution to
> solve this problem with utilization and task group. I have noticed
> exact same issues with load that generates weird task placement
> decision and i think that we should probably try to solve both wrong
> behavior with same mechanism. but this is not possible with flat
> hierarchy for load
> 
> Let me take an example.
> TA is a always running task on CPU1 in group /root/level1/
> TB wakes up on CPU0 and moves TA into group /root/level2/
> Even if TA stays on CPU1, runnable_load_avg of CPU1 root cfs rq will become 0.

Because while we migrate the load_avg on /root/level2, we do not
propagate the load_avg up the hierarchy?

And always propagating everyrthing up will indeed also fix the
utilization issue.

Of course, doing that propagation has its costs..

Didn't you post a patch doing just this a while ago?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-23 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-10  0:14 [PATCH v1 00/10] Optimize sched avgs computation and implement flat util hierarchy Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] sched/fair: Chance LOAD_AVG_MAX_N from 345 to 347 Yuyang Du
2016-08-24 16:01   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-29  0:07     ` Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] documentation: Add scheduler/sched-avg.txt Yuyang Du
2016-08-22 16:48   ` Randy Dunlap
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] sched/fair: Add static to remove_entity_load_avg() Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] sched/fair: Rename variable names for sched averages Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] sched/fair: Add __always_inline compiler attribute to __accumulate_sum() Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] sched/fair: Optimize __update_sched_avg() Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] sched/fair: Remove useless 64-bit to 32-bit variable conversion Yuyang Du
2016-08-25  7:11   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-29  1:00     ` Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] sched/fair: Remove scale_load_down() for load_avg Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] sched/fair: Rename scale_load() and scale_load_down() Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:14 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] sched/fair: Implement flat hierarchical structure for util_avg Yuyang Du
2016-08-10  0:23 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] Optimize sched avgs computation and implement flat util hierarchy Yuyang Du
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Yuyang Du
2016-08-23 13:28     ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-23 14:13       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-08-23 14:45         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-23 15:39           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-08-29  1:37             ` Yuyang Du
2016-09-01 18:32               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-08-24  8:54           ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-24  9:48             ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-29 19:00             ` Yuyang Du
2016-09-01 14:22               ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-23 19:09         ` Yuyang Du
2016-08-23 19:01       ` Yuyang Du

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