From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
1vier1@web.de, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] spinlock: Document memory barrier rules
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:40:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160831164020.GG29505@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160831154049.GY10121@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 05:40:49PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 06:59:07AM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
>
> > The barrier must ensure that taking the spinlock (as observed by another cpu
> > with spin_unlock_wait()) and a following read are ordered.
> >
> > start condition: sma->complex_mode = false;
> >
> > CPU 1:
> > spin_lock(&sem->lock); /* sem_nsems instances */
> > smp_mb__after_spin_lock();
> > if (!smp_load_acquire(&sma->complex_mode)) {
> > /* fast path successful! */
> > return sops->sem_num;
> > }
> > /* slow path, not relevant */
> >
> > CPU 2: (holding sma->sem_perm.lock)
> >
> > smp_store_mb(sma->complex_mode, true);
> >
> > for (i = 0; i < sma->sem_nsems; i++) {
> > spin_unlock_wait(&sma->sem_base[i].lock);
> > }
I'm struggling with this example. We have these locks:
&sem->lock
&sma->sem_base[0...sma->sem_nsems].lock
&sma->sem_perm.lock
a condition variable:
sma->complex_mode
and a new barrier:
smp_mb__after_spin_lock()
For simplicity, we can make sma->sem_nsems == 1, and have &sma->sem_base[0]
be &sem->lock in the example above. &sma->sem_perm.lock seems to be
irrelevant.
The litmus test then looks a bit like:
CPUm:
LOCK(x)
smp_mb();
RyAcq=0
CPUn:
Wy=1
smp_mb();
UNLOCK_WAIT(x)
which I think can be simplified to:
LOCK(x)
Ry=0
Wy=1
smp_mb(); // Note that this is implied by spin_unlock_wait on PPC and arm64
LOCK(x) // spin_unlock_wait behaves like lock; unlock
UNLOCK(x)
[I've removed a bunch of barriers here, that I don't think are necessary
for the guarantees you're after]
and the question is "Can both CPUs proceed?".
Looking at the above, then I don't think that they can. Whilst CPUm can
indeed speculate the Ry=0 before successfully taking the lock, if CPUn
observes CPUm's read, then it must also observe the lock being held wrt
the spin_lock API. That is because a successful LOCK operation by CPUn
would force CPUm to replay its LL/SC loop and therefore discard its
speculation of y.
What am I missing? The code snippet seems to have too many barriers to me!
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-31 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-28 11:56 [PATCH 0/4] Clarify/standardize memory barriers for lock/unlock Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] spinlock: Document memory barrier rules Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] barrier.h: Move smp_mb__after_unlock_lock to barrier.h Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core: update memory barriers Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] qspinlock for x86: smp_mb__after_spin_lock() is free Manfred Spraul
2016-08-29 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 10:51 ` [PATCH 3/4] net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core: update memory barriers Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-28 13:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] barrier.h: Move smp_mb__after_unlock_lock to barrier.h Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-28 16:31 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 18:00 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 14:41 ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-28 17:43 ` [PATCH 2/4 v3] spinlock.h: Move smp_mb__after_unlock_lock to spinlock.h Manfred Spraul
2016-08-29 10:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] spinlock: Document memory barrier rules Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 12:54 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-29 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 4:59 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-31 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 16:40 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-08-31 18:32 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-09-01 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 11:04 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-09-01 11:19 ` Will Deacon
2016-09-01 11:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 14:05 ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-29 10:53 ` [PATCH 0/4] Clarify/standardize memory barriers for lock/unlock Peter Zijlstra
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