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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Matan Barak <matanb@mellanox.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Parav Pandit <pandit.parav@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	lizefan@huawei.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, dledford@redhat.com,
	hch@lst.de, liranl@mellanox.com, sean.hefty@intel.com,
	jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com, haggaie@mellanox.com,
	corbet@lwn.net, james.l.morris@oracle.com, serge@hallyn.com,
	ogerlitz@mellanox.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv12 1/3] rdmacg: Added rdma cgroup controller
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:44:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160901084406.GA4115@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b6a346d-af4c-1e5f-0144-f68fb8e46c27@mellanox.com>

On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:25:40AM +0300, Matan Barak wrote:
> Well, if I recall, the reason doing so last time was in order to allow 
> flexible updating of ib_core independently, which is obviously not a good 
> reason (to say the least).
>
> Since the new ABI will probably define new object types (all recent 
> proposals go this way), the current approach could lead to either trying to 
> map new objects to existing cgroup resource types, which could lead to some 
> weird non 1:1 mapping, or having a split definitions - such that each 
> driver will declare its objects both in the cgroups mechanism and in its 
> driver dispatch table.
> Even worse than that, drivers could simply ignore the cgroups support while 
> implementing their own resource types and get a very broken containers 
> support.

Sorry guys, but arbitrary extensibility for something not finished is the
worst idea ever.  We have two options here:

 a) delay cgroups support until the grand rewrite is done
 b) add it now and deal with the consequences later

That being said, adding random non-Verbs hardwasre to the RDMA core is
the second worst idea ever.  Guess I need to catch up with the
discussion and start using the flame thrower.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-01  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-31  8:37 [PATCHv12 0/3] rdmacg: IB/core: rdma controller support Parav Pandit
2016-08-31  8:37 ` [PATCHv12 1/3] rdmacg: Added rdma cgroup controller Parav Pandit
2016-08-31  9:38   ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-07 15:07     ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-08  6:12       ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-08 10:20         ` Parav Pandit
2016-08-31 15:07   ` Matan Barak
2016-08-31 21:16     ` Tejun Heo
2016-09-01  7:25       ` Matan Barak
2016-09-01  8:44         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2016-09-07  7:55           ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-07  8:51             ` Matan Barak
2016-09-07 14:54               ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-10 16:14               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10 17:01                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-09-11  8:07                   ` Matan Barak
2016-09-11 13:34                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 14:35                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-11 17:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-09-11 17:24                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 17:52                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-09-12  5:07                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-14  7:06                               ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-14  8:14                                 ` Matan Barak
2016-09-14  9:19                                   ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-15 18:56                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-21  4:43                                   ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-21 14:26                                     ` Tejun Heo
2016-09-21 16:02                                       ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-04 18:19                                         ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-05  6:37                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-10-05 11:22                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-10-05 15:36                                               ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-06 12:55                                             ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-18 20:15                                           ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-19 13:10                                 ` Dalessandro, Dennis
2016-09-19 17:00                                   ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-10 16:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11  7:40               ` Matan Barak
2016-08-31  8:37 ` [PATCHv12 2/3] IB/core: added support to use " Parav Pandit
2016-08-31  8:37 ` [PATCHv12 3/3] rdmacg: Added documentation for rdmacg Parav Pandit
2016-08-31 13:56 ` [PATCHv12 0/3] rdmacg: IB/core: rdma controller support Tejun Heo
2016-10-05 11:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-10-06 12:59   ` Parav Pandit

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