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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/wait: abort_exclusive_wait() should pass TASK_NORMAL to wake_up()
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:26:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160901172658.GA14456@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160901113919.GI10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 09/01, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> So mixing INTERRUPTIBLE and UNINTERRUPTIBLE and then not using
> TASK_NORMAL for wakeups is a mis-feature/abuse of waitqueues IMO.

Heh, agreed. When I was doing this fix I suddenly realize that I do
not understand why do we have, say, wake_up_interruptible().

I mean, I can't imagine the "real" use-case when you actually want
to wake up only the INTERRUPTIBLE tasks and leave the UNINTERRUPTIBLE
sleeping. Exclusive or not.

It seems that wake_up_interruptible() is mostly used simply because
the caller knows that UNINTERRUPTIBLE waiters are not possible, this
is often the case.

> @@ -67,6 +70,16 @@ static void __wake_up_common(wait_queue_head_t *q, unsigned int mode,
>  {
>  	wait_queue_t *curr, *next;
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_WAITQUEUE
> +	if (q->state != -1) {
> +		/*
> +		 * WARN if we have INTERRUPTIBLE and UNINTERRUPTIBLE
> +		 * waiters and do not use TASK_NORMAL to wake.
> +		 */
> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(q->state != (mode & TASK_NORMAL));
> +	}
> +#endif

Yes, perhaps...

Actually, I think that TASK_NORMAL should be used even if wq mixes
UNINTERRUPTIBLE and KILLABLE waiters. The fact that TASK_KILLABLE
includes TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE is just "implementation detail" even
if I do not think this will be ever changed.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-01 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-26 12:44 [PATCH 0/2] sched/wait: abort_exclusive_wait() should pass TASK_NORMAL to wake_up() Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-01 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 17:26     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2016-09-01 18:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/wait: avoid abort_exclusive_wait() in __wait_on_bit_lock() Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-26 12:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-01 19:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 19:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 12:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-01 22:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 12:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-02 13:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 12:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched/wait: abort_exclusive_wait() should pass TASK_NORMAL to wake_up() Peter Zijlstra

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