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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/21] Documentation/applying-patches.txt: convert it to ReST markup
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:36:31 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160916183631.78ab4758@vento.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1474046437.32273.80.camel@perches.com>

Em Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:20:37 -0700
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> escreveu:

> On Fri, 2016-09-16 at 11:10 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 08:06:34 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com> wrote:
> > - use the correct markup to identify each section;
> > - Add some blank lines for Sphinx to properly interpret
> >   the markups;
> > - Remove a blank space on some paragraphs;
> > - Fix the verbatim and bold markups;
> > - Cleanup the remaining errors to make Sphinx happy.  
> 
> > So I certainly don't have a problem with the changes made to this file, but
> > there is some discomfort at a higher level:
> > +Last update:
> > +	2006-01-05
> > I have to wonder what the value of a document saying how to FTP the patch
> > and move up to 2.6.13 is in 2016.  
> 
> > Who knows, there might still be value in a discussion of using the patch
> > tool.  But I think we should seriously consider making a "historical"
> > section for documents that are nearing or past their expiration dates.  
> 
> Or just entirely delete historical document sections.

IMHO, it is best to just delete, or otherwise someone would be tempted
to convert to ReST.

In the specific case of this one, I still think it is has valuable
information. That's why I updated it on patch 17/17 of the second
patch series.

> All the older kernel sources would still have them so
> I don't see much of a need to keep the archival valued
> documentation bits in the current kernel source tree.
> 
> Suggesting using tools other than git seems wrong today.

Well, while we still generate weekly and per-release patches at
ftp.kernel.org, the information there is still valid.

I have one doubt, however: on this document (and on another converted
one), it mentions about:

	ftp.cc.kernel.org, where "cc" is a Country code.

I kept it there (and on another document at the development-process/
dir).

Is it still valid? I did some tests from here, and it didn't seem work.


> And thank you Mauro for the relatively thankless effort
> to cleanse and modernize the process documentation.

Anytime!

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-16 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-14 11:06 [PATCH v3 00/21] Create a book for Kernel development Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] doc: development-process: convert it to ReST markup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] doc: development-process: rename files to rst Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] docs-rst: create a book for the development process Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] Documentation/HOWTO: convert to ReST notation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] Documentation/applying-patches.txt: convert it to ReST markup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 17:10   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-16 17:20     ` Joe Perches
2016-09-16 21:36       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2016-09-16 20:25     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] Documentation/Changes: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] Documentation/CodingStyle: Convert " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 17:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-16 20:34     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-17  9:58       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] Documentation/CodingStyle: use the proper tag for verbatim font Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] Documentation/CodingStyle: replace underline markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] Documentation/CodingStyle: use the .. note:: markup where needed Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] Documentation/kernel-docs.txt: convert it to ReST markup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 17:15   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-16 20:42     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 21:00       ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-16 21:28         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] Documentation/ManagementStyle: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] Documentation/SecurityBugs: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 17:17   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-16 20:53     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] Documentation/stable_kernel_rules.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] Documentation/SubmittingDrivers: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] Documentation/SubmittingPatches: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 17:21   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-16 22:14     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] Documentation/HOWTO: add cross-references to other documents Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] docs-rst: move HOWTO and mentioned documents to development-process/ Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-09-16 17:23   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-09-14 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] doc-rst: Add the new development-process/ files to Sphinx build Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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